08 Oct 17
Originally posted by @bigdoggproblemGo with the first chapter it was set in the proper order. The 2nd chapter has more to do with events verses the creation description.
Are you using the order of creation of Genesis 1, or the order of creation of Genesis of 2? They're contradictory.
If you want a literalist interpretation to be used, you must resolve the contradiction. Throw one or the other out, please, so it is clear what we are assuming.
08 Oct 17
Originally posted by @bigdoggproblemI am going with the general idea. When Adam was created how old did he look?
Are you using the order of creation of Genesis 1, or the order of creation of Genesis of 2? They're contradictory.
If you want a literalist interpretation to be used, you must resolve the contradiction. Throw one or the other out, please, so it is clear what we are assuming.
When the stars were created. How old did the universe look? How long did it take for the star's light to get here?
You can carry on with other discussions after answering my question.
Of course if you wish to continue being a horses rear, continue as you have been doing.
08 Oct 17
Originally posted by @handyandyAnswer my question first, or be a libtard and refuse to actually answer a question.
How old did Adam think he was?
08 Oct 17
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Originally posted by @eladarAs has been pointed out to you before, this is not an answerable question. Growing up to become an adult isn't just a matter of being bigger.
Any response to this?
What was Adam's physical age when he was created?
Did Adam look like a new born baby?
A twenty-year-old adult has had wear on his/her body, such as the effect of oxidation on their cells. Their diet would also contribute to this wear, since pretty much all food has some effect on their body, usually both positive and negative to some degree. There's also the effect of years of gravity on their bones and muscles, and aging caused by the sun, radiation hitting earth, and so forth. There's also the effect of microbes, physical work done (or lack of), and on and on.
This is why we can tell when a dwarfed person is an adult or not, despite having the size of the average child. Conversely, a person much taller than the dwarf can still look like a child.
However, a human being that appeared out of nowhere wouldn't look like a regular person, and not just because of the absence of a bellybutton. Adam wouldn't have had any exposure to what causes aging. He would most likely be a completely hairless (unless God decided to add pubes for some reason) being of unknowable age.
08 Oct 17
Originally posted by @vivifySo you are saying that God would not be aware of natural aging and create a body with such aging in place.
As has been pointed out to you before, this is not an answerable question. Growing up to become an adult isn't just a matter of being bigger.
A twenty-year-old adult has had wear on his/her body, such as the effect of oxidation on their cells. Their diet would also contribute to this wear, since pretty much all food has some effect on their body, usua ...[text shortened]... a completely hairless (unless God decided to add pubes for some reason) being of unknowable age.
08 Oct 17
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Originally posted by @eladarAdam was intended to live forever, correct? Wasn't it only after the sin that Adam could age and die? So why then, would God create Adam to appear as if he's been exposed to wear and aging?
So you are saying that God would not be aware of natural aging and create a body with such aging in place.
08 Oct 17
Originally posted by @vivifyThere would be natural aging up until a point.
Adam was intended to live forever, correct? Wasn't it only after the sin that Adam could age and die? So why then, would God create Adam to appear as if he's been exposed to aging?
So you say that Adam would have had a body equivalent to a 20 year old.
08 Oct 17
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You're deliberately ignoring everything I mentioned about our body aging due to wear from the elements, gravity Etc.
You're also deliberately ignoring where I said that Adam wouldn't have been exposed to such elements ( gravity, Etc) if he were just made, and wouldn't have any Telltale sign that would give away his age that a normal human who grew up on Earth from the time they were a baby would have.
It seems you're deliberately ignoring these things because you understand that your argument has fallen apart.
08 Oct 17
Originally posted by @vivifyOf course I am ignoring it since it is irrelevant.
You're deliberately ignoring everything I mentioned about our body aging due to wear from the elements, gravity Etc.
You're also deliberately ignoring where I said that Adam wouldn't have been exposed to such elements ( gravity, Etc) if he were just made, and wouldn't have any Telltale sign that would give away his age that a normal human who grew up on Earth from the time they were a baby would have.
You like to claim that God is a simpleton and would not allow for all aspects. You assume that bodies would be frozen in time. This is just an assumption on your point which is irrelevant.
God created a sky full of stars that could be seen. This again demonstrates a creation with age. The billions of years it would take for light to appear on earth, instantaneously part of creation.
Years to grow a human adult body, instantaneous.
08 Oct 17
Originally posted by @eladarSo you're saying God created Adam's body to look like it had been exposed to damage and wear from 20 years of living on earth?
Of course I am ignoring it since it is irrelevant.
You like to claim that God is a simpleton and would not allow for all aspects. You assume that bodies would be frozen in time. This is just an assumption on your point which is irrelevant.
God created a sky full of stars that could be seen. This again demonstrates a creation with age. The billions of ...[text shortened]... on earth, instantaneously part of creation.
Years to grow a human adult body, instantaneous.
Interesting.
08 Oct 17
Originally posted by @vivifyI said it is possible and likely. In the same way Adam probably had a belly button.
So you're saying God created Adam's body to look like it had been exposed to damage and wear from 20 years of living on earth?
Interesting.
Why would God create natural laws and not follow those laws when creating people and objects?