Do You Call Jesus Lord?

@sonship said
@divegeester
The last two posts were written with you and your complaint in mind.

The brothers in the past who came up with the phrase "Triune God" probably would not have HAD to do so except for severe attacks against the Person of Christ.

If it was the totality of the NT that we just get our ticket to heaven and wait to go off to a merry place, then some ...[text shortened]... eally bring out for people more of what the Bible actually reveals, especially on the positive side.

I think you just lift the phases from other people in your church/cult and post them here in the hope of them gaining you attention due their glaring extra-Biblical origin.

I find you to be an extraordinarily vain man, steeped in error, spite and spiritual self righteousness. This is my honest assessment based on your posting in this forum.

As I’ve said before, I think your cult leaders would be disappointed with your self promoting efforts here, especially as they don’t see you as being of the required spiritual calibre to hold a leadership position within your own religious group.

@divegeester

I see there three silly paragraphs.

@sonship said
@divegeester

I see there three silly paragraphs.

Well at least there are only three, unlike your pages and pages.

@divegeester

Your three paragraphs tell me that you are preoccupied with thoughts of:

official positions,
automatic lifetime positions of authority,
professional appointment organizationally,
clerical class,
leadership not by example but by official office,
clergy / laity class stratification.
organized religious institutions.

I am not sure how much of this speaks more about the strivings of your own soul in your past.

I have a funny feeling that perhaps your own struggles to "look good to the higher ups" and turf fighting are being projected wildly toward someone else.

@sonship said
@divegeester

Your three paragraphs tell me that you are preoccupied with thoughts of:

official positions,
automatic lifetime positions of authority,
professional appointment organizationally,
clerical class,
leadership not by example but by official office,
clergy / laity class stratification.
organized religious institutions.

I am not sure how much of this s ...[text shortened]... s to "look good to the higher ups" and turf fighting are being projected wildly toward someone else.

Ok thanks for the update.

@sonship said
@avalanchethecat

Absolutely none of those comments refer in any way to Jesus though. That's the best you could come up with?

You saying the concept of God is "abhorrent" is certainly calling Jesus either mad or a liar or history's greatest charlatan.

He was all about God.

You're lying again. I said I find the concept of an "all-knowing god" abhorrent. Perhaps while you're going through my posts downvoting them in your typically small-minded and childish manner, you could take the time to read them.

@sonship said
@divegeester
Something like this:
Hey you guys. I mean you Ghost, and you avalanchethecat, and you FMF

"I declare before God and before Satan and before the whole world -
I love and own the Lord Jesus Christ as the one Lord of all, and MY Lord."

Don't you cringe then Divegeester when they speak evil things about your Lord Jesus?

What "evil things" have I said? You're making stuff up.

@fmf said
What "evil things" have I said? You're making stuff up.

The question to Dive was -

Don't you cringe then Divegeester when they speak evil things about your Lord Jesus?

I think you, FMF, agreed with Richard Carrier that maybe Jesus did not exist.

You said that He was executed by the Rome Empire only for being an insurrectionists.

You may argue that that is not an evil thing spoken about Jesus.
Maybe that is debatable. Maybe I would have to go searching your years of atheist comments to find something.

However, my question was doesn't it make Dive who cringe of not about such speaking about Jesus.

At that point he can answer either Yes it does or No it does not.
It certainly makes me cringe.

Jesus who withdrew when that tried to MAKE Him a king, dies for insurrection?
That's not right Pilate WANTED TO RELEASE HIM AND SAW NO FAULT IN HIM.
Then Jesus, knowing that they were about to come and take Him by force to make Him KIng, withdrew again to the mountain, Himself alone." (John 6:15)

Jesus told the nervous Pontius Pilate "My kingdom is not of this world."

You saying Pilate didn't know better?
You are saying the four gospels are lying.
And you misrepresent Jesus own actions and words.

These are all cringe worthy concepts to me.

@sonship said
I think you, FMF, agreed with Richard Carrier that maybe Jesus did not exist.

No. I have never said this. You're making it up.

@sonship said
You may argue that that is not an evil thing spoken about Jesus.

Wouldn't I have to be, at the very least, dishonest for the views I express to be "evil things"?

@sonship said
It certainly makes me cringe.

There are things you say that make me cringe, sonship. But that doesn't mean they are "evil things".

@FMF

I will take your word for it that you did not agree with Carrier.
I retract that statement if you did not endorse Carrier's concept that maybe
there never existed such a person.

@sonship said
These are all cringe worthy concepts to me.

Many of the teachings and doctrines you regurgitate in this forum are cringeworthy to me.

@FMF
Yes. And there are things which make me cringe which are evil IMO.

Here is a man who poured out His life selflessly, caring nothing for Himself.
You may say Jesus was mistaken about Himself and was wrong or crazy to do so.

But to dismiss such as Christ being executed for political sedition I would regard as pretty bad revision of history.

What would you call me saying Abraham Lincoln committed suicide by jumping in front of John Wilke's Booth's pistol?

What would you call me twisting the account of Mahatma Ghandi's assasination by saying he contracted a murderer to knock him off to avoid paying some bills?

I would call this evil propaganda.
And your twisting of the history of Christ's death to the detriment of His
character, I would say was evil speaking about Him.

@sonship said
@FMF

I will take your word for it that you did not agree with Carrier.
I retract that statement if you did not endorse Carrier's concept that maybe
there never existed such a person.

What's odd about you is that you have been discussing things with me for more than a decade and you just superimpose whatever beliefs you want onto me over and over again, whatever suits whatever stuff you happen to be typing out. You are like a bot.