Democrats freaking out about church speech

@whodey said
Christ said that his kingdom was not of this world, nor could be.

The god of this world is at the heart of the state. The death and destruction of the state is unprecedented.

Exactly.

@fmf said
What's your take on Romans 13 as it applies to this?

Not sure what you are asking? Those in authority don't turn a nation into a Christian
nation and if the whole country turned into Christians that would only be true until
the next generation came up.

@fmf said
The majority of American Christians voted for and got the Christian president they wanted in 2016.

This isn't true and we have been over why this is the case...

The most conservative Christians all either spoke out in opposition (Dr. Albert Mohler, Dean of the SBC seminary; Michael Brown, a prominent Baptist podcaster & Minister) or they endorsed Pres. Trump with many, many caveats (Fr. Josiah Trenham, Fr. Mitch Pacwa, James White).

I am unaware of reputable conservative Christians that gave some unqualified endorsement of Pres. Trump as the "Christian" president.

I say this as a conservative Christian, and an American.

You heap up this opposition as, what, an atheist Briton? Sorry, you may not be British, I am not sure, but I was under that impression for some reason.

@philokalia said
This isn't true and we have been over why this is the case...

The majority of American Christians voted for Trump. He was their choice. He is now the president.

@philokalia said
The most conservative Christians all either spoke out in opposition (Dr. Albert Mohler, Dean of the SBC seminary; Michael Brown, a prominent Baptist podcaster & Minister) or they endorsed Pres. Trump with many, many caveats (Fr. Josiah Trenham, Fr. Mitch Pacwa, James White).

I am unaware of reputable conservative Christians that gave some unqualified endorsement of Pres. Trump as the "Christian" president.

I say this as a conservative Christian, and an American.

The majority of American Christians either voted for Trump or for Clinton or they abstained.

@philokalia said
You heap up this opposition as, what, an atheist Briton? Sorry, you may not be British, I am not sure, but I was under that impression for some reason.

Is this a 'debating point'?

@philokalia said
I say this as a conservative Christian, and an American.

As a conservative American Christian, you presumably believe that the power that Trump wields is ordained by God and that he was placed there in government by God.

@kellyjay said
Not sure what you are asking?

I am asking this: What's your take on Romans 13 as it applies to this?

It doesn't apply if you think it does share how.

@kellyjay said
It doesn't apply if you think it does share how.

Why do you think "it doesn't apply"?

@fmf said
Why do you think "it doesn't apply"?

One has nothing to do with the other. You driving at something if you think they are
connected show why.

@kellyjay said
One has nothing to do with the other. You driving at something if you think they are
connected show why.

You believe that the power Trump wields is ordained by God and that he was placed there in government by God, right?

KellyJay?

@fmf said
You believe that the power Trump wields is ordained by God and that he was placed there in government by God, right?

All leaders are appointed that doesn’t make them good or Christian.

@kellyjay said
All leaders are appointed that doesn’t make them good or Christian.

When you say "All leaders are appointed...", you mean all leaders are ordained by God and placed in government by God?