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Cornovii

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
A church or organisation that has watered down the Bibles clear and wholesome teachings and supplanted them with secular liberalism.

An example would be the acceptance of homosexuality the practice of which is clearly condemned in scripture.
What about Christian organisations, such as your own, who have harboured known child abusers? Do they fit your description of a 'Libtard Church'?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
A church or organisation that has watered down the Bibles clear and wholesome teachings and supplanted them with secular liberalism.

An example would be the acceptance of homosexuality the practice of which is clearly condemned in scripture.
Would the acceptance of obesity fit you description? Or is gluttony not considered as serious a sin as homosexuality?

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
What about Christian organisations, such as your own, who have harboured known child abusers? Do they fit your description of a 'Libtard Church'?
Another cheap comment. Where mandatory reporting exists we inform authorities if child abuse comes to our attention in any form and if no mandatory reporting exists we advise those involved to report it. Your attempt to gain some leverage from the serious issue just about sums how much of a cheapo you really are and you know the best part, you did it all by yourself.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
Would the acceptance of obesity fit you description? Or is gluttony not considered as serious a sin as homosexuality?
You asked a question and you got an answer it should be enough for you. Furthermore why have you failed to mention any other factor which produces obesity? Are you cherry picking? Are you unaware or are do you simply have a biased agenda and a preconceived approach. Not very open minded for one who professes to be tolerant, is it.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Where mandatory reporting exists we inform authorities if child abuse comes to our attention in any form and if no mandatory reporting exists we advise those involved to report it.
Why doesn't your organization report it even when there is not "mandatory reporting"?

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Originally posted by FMF
Why doesn't your organization report it even when there is not "mandatory reporting"?
This has been answered. We are not policemen and are not trained to deal with child abuse or criminality. Secondly we leave it to those families involved, some as was brought out in the Royal commission report would rather it was not reported to police. Thirdly child abuse takes many forms. Would you have us report sexting between two minors to the authorities or would you let the families involved deal with it? We feel that families should decide where there is no mandatory reporting.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
This as been answered. We are not policemen and are not trained to deal with child abuse or criminality.
I wasn't asking you about whether you are policeman. I am asking you why you wouldn't report one of the most serious and most heinous crimes to the authorities?

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Originally posted by FMF
I wasn't asking you about whether you are policeman. I am asking you why you wouldn't report one of the most serious and most heinous crimes to the authorities?
yes and you received an answer i suggest that you read it again if you failed to comprehend it the first time.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
We feel that families should decide.
What if the family are involved and/or want it hushed up and what if this isn't in the interests of the child victim or, indeed, other children?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes and you received an answer i suggest that you read it again if you failed to comprehend it the first time.
Your answer was evasive because the authorities would be well placed to make decisions about the welfare of the victims and your organization withholding the information from the authorities means they can't do what they are better placed than your organization to do.

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Originally posted by FMF
What if the family are involved and/or want it hushed up and what if this isn't in the interests of the child victim or, indeed, other children?
Its difficult to comment without any particulars, there is nothing stopping them or the children going to the authorities and we have no jurisdiction to force them to do so.

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Originally posted by FMF
Your answer was evasive because the authorities would be well placed to make decisions about the welfare of the victims and your organization withholding the information from the authorities means they can't do what they are better placed than your organization to do.
whether you think its evasive is neither here nor there, you asked a question and you got an answer.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Its difficult to comment without any particulars, there is nothing stopping them or the children going to the authorities and we have no jurisdiction to force them to do so.
Anyone can report serious crimes. You don't have to force anyone to do anything. Your preferred stance when assumed by leaders in Australia, for example, resulted in hundreds and hundreds of child sex crimes being hushed up for decades.

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Originally posted by FMF
Anyone can report serious crimes. You don't have to force anyone to do anything. Your preferred stance when assumed by leaders in Australia, for example, resulted in hundreds and hundreds of child sex crimes being hushed up for decades.
fine then let those involved report it, they will be advised to do so and this is as far as our jurisdiction goes.

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Originally posted by FMF
Anyone can report serious crimes. You don't have to force anyone to do anything. Your preferred stance when assumed by leaders in Australia, for example, resulted in hundreds and hundreds of child sex crimes being hushed up for decades.
Then introduce mandatory reporting, panic over problem solved.