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Originally posted by RBHILLThat's what your cult leaders say, not what the Book of James says.
Man is justified by faith.
And yes I have read all the NT before.
And I am reading it again on a Bible in a year.
I am in the books of Lev., Ps., and Acts.
If is the works that God gave the person in advance before they were a Christian and now that they are they can do those Good works that are from God not of yourself.
12 Apr 06
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Originally posted by RBHILLYou need to start studying the Tao rather than believing in your "Big Daddy" God. Here's a link: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~stwright/rel/tao/TaoTeChing.html
Why not give your life to Christ and then God will here from you and you can ask him to show you why.
Isaiah 1:15-16
Follow the path to true enlightenment, RB.
12 Apr 06
Originally posted by no1marauderI concur with this good advice. From my studies, Tao Te Ching is far more enlightening than The Bible.
You need to start studying the Tao rather than believing in your "Big Daddy" God. Here's a link: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~stwright/rel/tao/TaoTeChing.html
Follow the path to true enlightenment, RB.
12 Apr 06
Originally posted by no1marauderLOL, your telling me that Jesus is a cult leader of me.
That's what your cult leaders say, not what the Book of James says.
LOL, He is the person I listen to. Not anyone else.
He can speak through people you now. And 3 times he has spoken the same verses to me by three different people. He was telling me though those people not to worry about my past.
12 Apr 06
Originally posted by RBHILLLuke 10:27-28: 27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbor as thyself.
no1marauder I have told you what James says to me.
Jesus says to this guy in Luke 10:26 What is written in the law? What is your reading of it?
So I say to you what does this verse say to you?
Romans 8:1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
It's pretty simple RB; you're not "in Christ Jesus" just cuz you say so. Jesus makes it clear you have to perform works of love, charity and mercy to your fellow Man. All the faith in the world won't grant you salvation absent good works; that's what Jesus himself says in Matthew 25:31-46 and it's the central point of James 2. That Paul might have said some things in a few verses that seem to contradict this doesn't mean that a "Christian" shouldn't follow Jesus' teachings. See the Sermon on the Mount as well.
12 Apr 06
Originally posted by no1marauderNo one is saved thru good works. If so there would be no point to Jesus' sacrafice on the cross. That sacrafice washed away our sins. Every one is a sinner, thus there is NO way anyone could ever WORK there way to heaven.
Luke 10:27-28: 27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbor as thyself.
28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
It's pretty simple RB; you're not "in Christ Jesus" just cuz you ...[text shortened]... "Christian" shouldn't follow Jesus' teachings. See the Sermon on the Mount as well.
12 Apr 06
Originally posted by NimzovichLarsenHe's not claiming that works are sufficient for salvation, but that they're necessary. Pretty simple distinction, really.
No one is saved thru good works. If so there would be no point to Jesus' sacrafice on the cross. That sacrafice washed away our sins. Every one is a sinner, thus there is NO way anyone could ever WORK there way to heaven.
12 Apr 06
Originally posted by bbarrthey are not necessary for anything. The point is salvation and there is only 1 way to be saved....and it has nothing to do with works. Since you can't lose salvation what is the point of your "good works".
He's not claiming that works are sufficient for salvation, but that they're necessary. Pretty simple distinction, really.