01 Nov 15
Originally posted by Proper KnobHey sup Proper Dweeb? to answer your question the techniques were pioneered in response to Jehovahs Witnesses a religious group who were applying a religious principle.
What exactly does this have to do with the 'supernatural, religion or the life after'?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI see. Do the Jehovahs Witnesses support the view expressed by Dr Américo Valério in a 1961 Watchtower publication that blood transfusions were often followed by "moral insanity, sexual perversions, repression, inferiority complexes, petty crimes"?
Hey sup Proper Dweeb? to answer your question the techniques were pioneered in response to Jehovahs Witnesses a religious group who were applying a religious principle.
Originally posted by Proper KnobThe video is not about blood transfusions. What its actually about is bloodless surgery. How you could have failed to notice this I cannot say. As for Dr Américo Valério I don't know what his findings were based upon and its therefore impossible to make a comment on their validity. Can you provide the data upon which his findings were based? The stance of Jehovahs Witnesses and blood transfusions is well known and readily available, you may find it at jw.org
I see. Do the Jehovahs Witnesses support the view expressed by Dr Américo Valério in a 1961 Watchtower publication that blood transfusions were often followed by "moral insanity, sexual perversions, repression, inferiority complexes, petty crimes"?
01 Nov 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI think it is important to also note here that many of the worlds greatest scientific inventions and developments were motivated by war. In fact I often hear it touted as an excuse for military spending ie 'well we might get all these other good developments'. I personally disagree. I would rather develop the best medicine (including surgery techniques) without war or religion being needed to drive the developments.
Hey sup Proper Dweeb? to answer your question the techniques were pioneered in response to Jehovahs Witnesses a religious group who were applying a religious principle.
Originally posted by twhiteheadSometimes even the greatest minds need a little inspiration to help them think outside of the box.
I think it is important to also note here that many of the worlds greatest scientific inventions and developments were motivated by war. In fact I often hear it touted as an excuse for military spending ie 'well we might get all these other good developments'. I personally disagree. I would rather develop the best medicine (including surgery techniques) without war or religion being needed to drive the developments.
01 Nov 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf Galveston75's OP is not relating the Army's use of bloodless surgery to blood transfusions and it is not about the Jehovah's Witneses and their beliefs about blood transfusions, despite being posted by a Jehovah's Witness and the YouTube poster being a Jehovah's Witness with a home page full of Jehovah's Witness propaganda...then why is it posted in the spirituality forum?
The video is not about blood transfusions. What its actually about is bloodless surgery. How you could have failed to notice this I cannot say. As for Dr Américo Valério I don't know what his findings were based upon and its therefore impossible to make a comment on their validity. Can you provide the data upon which his findings were based? The st ...[text shortened]... Witnesses and blood transfusions is well known and readily available, you may find it at jw.org
02 Nov 15
Thank goodness finally a decent and mature comment. You are welcome for the posting. With the inherent dangers of blood transfusions it would seem that anyone would want to know all the "options" available to themselves or their loved ones in case of an emergency with any medical procedure.
Some here who are bent on arguing on "any subject" with have that mind set so easily miss the point of this post and that is to simply share this information with anyone to use if they decide.
Originally posted by galveston75Is not "the point of this post" spiritual or religious in some way?
Some here who are bent on arguing on "any subject" with have that mind set so easily miss the point of this post and that is to simply share this information with anyone to use if they decide.
02 Nov 15
Originally posted by galveston75So this is about blood transfusions; thank you for clarifying. Robbie carrobie was berating me for making that assumption earlier.
With the inherent dangers of blood transfusions it would seem that anyone would want to know all the "options" available to themselves or their loved ones in case of an emergency with any medical procedure.
PS welcome back to the forum.
02 Nov 15
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhen you say "alternatives" are you yourself now introducing blood transfusions into your own dialogue, after insisting the OP had nothing to do with the JW postion on blood or transfusions?
yes indeed, we have learned from experience that quite honestly they are uninterested in learning what the alternatives are...
02 Nov 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAre you unable or unwilling to answer my question, I can't quite work it out?
The video is not about blood transfusions. What its actually about is bloodless surgery. How you could have failed to notice this I cannot say. As for Dr Américo Valério I don't know what his findings were based upon and its therefore impossible to make a comment on their validity. Can you provide the data upon which his findings were based? The st ...[text shortened]... Witnesses and blood transfusions is well known and readily available, you may find it at jw.org