02 Nov 15
Originally posted by galveston75You petulant avoidance of my absolutely spot on practical question about your beliefs just goes to show that when the chips are down on real life your doctrine on blood doesn't hold up.
Let me say this to you. First I hope your family never has to go thru any situation where there is blood involved. If there is and the option is available to you to use this bloodless procedure which is much safer then using human blood and it all works out to a good end, I hope for good health and life for your family.
Now this I will say and only s ...[text shortened]... respond to you.
So now lets see how long it takes you to ask me to respond???? Good day.....
In the scenario that potentially any parent could find themselves in, the JW parents have two alternatives:
1) go against the teaching of my religious leaders and let my child live
2) allow my child to die in order to appease a God who would prefer my child die than me disobey him.
This is the absolute crux of this belief you hold. It is dangerous and frankly should be made illegal. I'm pleased that in many countries the authorities prevent your dangerous delusions harming young people.
02 Nov 15
For anyone who wishes to know what all bibles say on this, here are a few examples:
Acts 15:29American Standard Version (ASV)
29 that ye abstain from things sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication; from which if ye keep yourselves, it shall be well with you. Fare ye well.
Acts 15:29King James Version (KJV)
29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
Acts 15:2921st Century King James Version (KJ21)
29 that ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication. If ye keep yourselves from these things, ye shall do well. Fare ye well!”
etc,etc.....
02 Nov 15
Originally posted by galveston75Litmus test:
For anyone who wishes to know what all bibles say on this, here are a few examples:
Acts 15:29American Standard Version (ASV)
29 that ye abstain from things sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication; from which if ye keep yourselves, it shall be well with you. Fare ye well.
Acts 15:29King James Vers ...[text shortened]... ation. If ye keep yourselves from these things, ye shall do well. Fare ye well!”
etc,etc.....
Would you let a family member die rather than give them a blood transfusion?
This is the ultimate test of your belief in this teach Galveston75. If you say you would let them live, then you absolutely MUST stop spreading this teaching.
Originally posted by divegeesterThe teaching is biblical. Are you asking him to abandon a biblical teaching. What kind of Christian are you? You appear to me to be more like a son of Satan than a son of the light. The early Christians would forfeit their lives and the lives of their families by refusing to offer up incense to an effigy of the emporer. You appear to me to be the kind of Christian that would have mocked them and asked them to abandon their principles after all it was only a litlle incense. Please dont offer us any more useless advice. We have principles that we are willing to forfeit even our own lives over you have nothing but yourself. Its no wonder you are always barking like a mad hound at everything you find disagreeable.
Litmus test:
Would you let a family member die rather than give them a blood transfusion?
This is the ultimate test of your belief in this teach Galveston75. If you say you would let them live, then you absolutely MUST stop spreading this teaching.
Originally posted by galveston75Gman please ignore them. Dont feed trolls. Honestly kick them into touch they have nothing of any value to offer anyone. Have nothing to do with them.
For anyone who wishes to know what all bibles say on this, here are a few examples:
Acts 15:29American Standard Version (ASV)
29 that ye abstain from things sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication; from which if ye keep yourselves, it shall be well with you. Fare ye well.
Acts 15:29King James Vers ...[text shortened]... ation. If ye keep yourselves from these things, ye shall do well. Fare ye well!”
etc,etc.....
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf one were to "forfeit" even one's own children ~ for want of life-saving medical treatment ~ due to these notions you refer to as "principles", how would it be anything other than child sacrifice?
We have principles that we are willing to forfeit even our own lives over you have nothing but yourself.
03 Nov 15
FMF is an apostate. He has abandoned Christianity and has rejected Jesus Christ. He is also Biblically illiterate. He has nothing of any value to impart to any believer on any level regarding their faith. The Bible gives clear advise to Christians to avoid apostates for those very reasons. Its excellent advise.
Originally posted by divegeesterYou have aligned yourself with a known apostate and someone who has rejected Jesus Christ and here you are in like manner attempting to get a believer to abandon a clear and unequivocal Bible teaching. Clearly you are a son of Satan and not a son of the light. The words of Jesus Christ are most applicable in your case,
Litmus test:
Would you let a family member die rather than give them a blood transfusion?
This is the ultimate test of your belief in this teach Galveston75. If you say you would let them live, then you absolutely MUST stop spreading this teaching.
"If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea." - Matt 18:6
03 Nov 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieBut I post here as a non-Christian. The fact that I am not a Christian is surely no excuse for you to dodge on-topic questions in a discussion on a forum designed for people with all manner of beliefs and creeds and which is most certainly not a 'Christianity Forum'.
FMF is an apostate. He has abandoned Christianity and has rejected Jesus Christ. He is also Biblically illiterate. He has nothing of any value to impart to any believer on any level regarding their faith. The Bible gives clear advise to Christians to avoid apostates for those very reasons. Its excellent advise.
03 Nov 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo according to your religion you feel empowered to condemn a fellow Christian as "a son of Satan" for disagreeing with you about the interpretation of Acts 15: 28,29?
...you are in like manner attempting to get a believer to abandon a clear and unequivocal Bible teaching. Clearly you are a son of Satan and not a son of the light.
03 Nov 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWould this be a justifiable killing of another human being in your view?
"If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea." - Matt 18:6