@chaney3 saidThe whole world stands condemned already due to sins, Jesus said as much.
Torture me, and all Jehovah Witnesses. And Jews too.
Well, Buddhists too.
Without Him your doctrine will be of no use to you no matter what you think about
any topic, and how strong you feel about it.
@fmf saidThat is more than likely why you missed God in the first place, you don't grasp the
Your little slab of dogma does not address my question; it dodges it.
most important part of Jesus Christ and our salvation, odds are you never did.
22 Nov 18
@kellyjay saidTake your own personal view on "the most important part of Jesus Christ" and then use it to answer this question: If chaney3 doesn't believe that 'Jesus is God' is there any way he can avoid being tortured by Jesus forever?
That is more than likely why you missed God in the first place, you don't grasp the
most important part of Jesus Christ and our salvation, odds are you never did.
22 Nov 18
@fmf saidJust go back and repeat my earlier answers, because that is my answer. Asking for
Take your own personal view on "the most important part of Jesus Christ" and then use it to answer this question: If chaney3 doesn't believe that 'Jesus is God' is there any way he can avoid being tortured by Jesus forever?
it over and over and receiving the same answer over and over isn't going to change
my answer.
@fmf saidAgain, so?
It's a public debate and discussion forum, Suzianne. Debate and discussion you claim to have had in secret has nothing to do with what is debated and discussed here. You never expressed any disagreement in public with the notion that even a person who believes in Jesus for just one second is irrevocably gifted with eternal life regardless of whether they stop believing ~ a piece ...[text shortened]... tian doctrine Grampy Bobby explained in public and did so without any dissent from other Christians.
22 Nov 18
@kellyjay saidYou are dodging. You've offered slabs of dogma-text. Is Jesus going to torture chaney3 as things stand (if his belief doesn't change)? Is He going to torture him? Your answer could take the form of a 'yes' or a 'no'. Another option would be to answer that you 'don't know'.
Just go back and repeat my earlier answers, because that is my answer. Asking for
it over and over and receiving the same answer over and over isn't going to change
my answer.
@fmf saidOf course you will.
I'll take that as a 'yes' ~ your sycophancy towards Grampy Bobby trumped any principles you might have regarding what you see as the truth.
Telling lies never stopped you before.
Why ask a question that you've already decided the answer to?
Because you seem to think this is the Politics Forum. It's all you do here.
In case you haven't noticed, I stopped caring about your integrity acrobatics a long time ago.