21 Nov 18
@kellyjay saidAgreed, but does it matter if I don't believe Jesus is God?
The question is only answered by him and Jesus Christ, it isn't a check list of I do
believe this, I don't believe that. Its Jesus Christ alone, the Way, Truth, and Life. The
discussions on these boards rarely talk about things that matter when it comes to
Christ. We can disagree on the age of the earth, Hell, getting baptized in the name
of Jesus, or the Father, Son, an ...[text shortened]... ING else, what is your relationship with Jesus Christ? Is Jesus Christ your
Lord and Savior or not?
Then I possibly have an incorrect relationship with Jesus?
@chaney3 saidHow can you have a "relationship" with someone you don't think exists?
Agreed, but does it matter if I don't believe Jesus is God?
Then I possibly have an incorrect relationship with Jesus?
21 Nov 18
@divegeester saidTrue.
How can you have a "relationship" with someone you don't think exists?
It was over 2,000 years ago.
All I have to go on is stories from the bible.
Takes a lot of faith to simply just believe something that you cannot know.
21 Nov 18
@chaney3 saidBy the way, there's a big difference in believing in a Creator, or an Intelligent Design......and attaching that to God or Jesus, as told in the bible.
True.
It was over 2,000 years ago.
All I have to go on is stories from the bible.
Takes a lot of faith to simply just believe something that you cannot know.
The million dollar question is why a person believes the bible at all.
21 Nov 18
@divegeester saidHelp me out then.
This might be an interesting thread topic if you frame it the right way.
It's a critical question, but how can it be framed properly?
Your thread if you want.
21 Nov 18
@kellyjay saidI am asking you what you believe about the case I raised. Don't dodge the debate. What is your belief?
The question is only answered by him and Jesus Christ, it isn't a check list of I do
believe this, I don't believe that. Its Jesus Christ alone, the Way, Truth, and Life. The
discussions on these boards rarely talk about things that matter when it comes to
Christ. We can disagree on the age of the earth, Hell, getting baptized in the name
of Jesus, or the Father, Son, an ...[text shortened]... ING else, what is your relationship with Jesus Christ? Is Jesus Christ your
Lord and Savior or not?
21 Nov 18
@chaney3 saidYou looking for a reason to dismiss Him as God? Think about this, why would a
Agreed, but does it matter if I don't believe Jesus is God?
Then I possibly have an incorrect relationship with Jesus?
very normal guy's death matter enough to wipe clean the sins of the whole world?
How would a normal guy get sent by God, and be with God at the beginning of all
creation? I can start running down the list, if Jesus isn't who He and scriptures say
He is, what and who is He?
John 1:1 English Standard Version (ESV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
21 Nov 18
@chaney3 saidIf you have an incorrect relationship with Jesus, what is that? Brother you really do
Agreed, but does it matter if I don't believe Jesus is God?
Then I possibly have an incorrect relationship with Jesus?
need to stop listening to all these people here, me included, and get alone with God
and have at it.
21 Nov 18
@chaney3 saidSo do you think it takes more faith to believe millions of years ago life started from
True.
It was over 2,000 years ago.
All I have to go on is stories from the bible.
Takes a lot of faith to simply just believe something that you cannot know.
non-life, evolved over time, into something that cannot tell if it belongs in the boys
bathroom or the girls?
21 Nov 18
@kellyjay saidRedirecting the onus to answer - i.e. to answer the question about what might happen - to a supernatural being and not sharing your belief is a non-answer - it is you dodging the opportunity to state what you believe.
I told you want I believe, you are not paying attention.
Do you believe that Jesus is going to torture chaney3 if his current beliefs don't change?
21 Nov 18
@fmf saidTorture me, and all Jehovah Witnesses. And Jews too.
Redirecting the onus to answer - i.e. to answer the question about what might happen - to a supernatural being and not sharing your belief is a non-answer - it is you dodging the opportunity to state what you believe.
Do you believe that Jesus is going to torture chaney3 if his current beliefs don't change?
Well, Buddhists too.
@fmf saidIts his relationship with Jesus Christ that matters, the rest would work itself out.
Redirecting the onus to answer - i.e. to answer the question about what might happen - to a supernatural being and not sharing your belief is a non-answer - it is you dodging the opportunity to state what you believe.
Do you believe that Jesus is going to torture chaney3 if his current beliefs don't change?
Just because you never had a real relationship with the living God doesn't mean
that is true with others.