% of draws vs rating

% of draws vs rating

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I wonder whether there is a graph of this somewhere showing games played by players at different ratings and the % of outcomes that are draws. I'd be interested in seeing that.

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it depends on horoscopes.

if your star sign is the leko or a kramnik, you draw. if your sign is the topalov or the tal, drawing is not your destiny.

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I know personally, drawing has always been a rare thing (I think it's like 18 out of 403 games)

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For the 1400+ database = 10.6%

For the 1900+ database = 27.2%

For the master's games database = 41.7%

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Who cares, chess sucks

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Originally posted by patzer2007
I wonder whether there is a graph of this somewhere showing games played by players at different ratings and the % of outcomes that are draws. I'd be interested in seeing that.
I'm pretty sure there would be a strong correlation between the two. the stronger one gets, the more respect he has for the opponent, and the more accurately he assesses his winning chances in positions.

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Originally posted by philidor position
I'm pretty sure there would be a strong correlation between the two. the stronger one gets, the more respect he has for the opponent, and the more accurately he assesses his winning chances in positions.
Depends on style of play/opening selection as well though.

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Originally posted by wormwood
it depends on horoscopes.

if your star sign is the leko or a kramnik, you draw. if your sign is the topalov or the tal, drawing is not your destiny.
You must be kidding a wee bit must you? I'm glad you moved from crack mountain, it was difficult to make sense of your incoherent babbles. This reply shows that, that stuff takes a wee bit of time to get out of your system.

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Originally posted by patzer2007
I wonder whether there is a graph of this somewhere showing games played by players at different ratings and the % of outcomes that are draws. I'd be interested in seeing that.
Only USCF ratings for 1997, but maybe this link will hold your interest. 🙂

http://math.bu.edu/people/mg/ratings/Draws.jpg

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Originally posted by Jasen777
For the 1400+ database = 10.6%

For the 1900+ database = 27.2%

For the master's games database = 41.7%
my drawing percentage was 4.7% at 1600. at 2000 it's 5.0%.

not much change there.

I think it's much more about how much of a risk taker a player is, than how strong you are.

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Originally posted by wormwood
my drawing percentage was 4.7% at 1600. at 2000 it's 5.0%.

not much change there.

I think it's much more about how much of a risk taker a player is, than how strong you are.
that is of course the most important factor for individuals. but in general, I would expect the average percentage get higher in large groups, especially on the way to grandmaster strength. .

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I am at 5.75%. I don't get a lot of draw offers, and I play most games to the end in hopes of a stalemate like this one: Game 6058263

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Originally posted by philidor position
that is of course the most important factor for individuals. but in general, I would expect the average percentage get higher in large groups, especially on the way to grandmaster strength. .
actually, it's been shown that aggressive style scores (slightly) more points, on grandmaster level. it was studied a couple of years ago.



found it. well, a chessbase bit on it to be exact.

Embracing Risk in Tournaments:
http://www.chessbase.de/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3528

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I think better players are less likely to make blunders, thus causing more draws. At least on the amateur level.

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Originally posted by wormwood
actually, it's been shown that aggressive style scores (slightly) more points, on grandmaster level. it was studied a couple of years ago.



found it. well, a chessbase bit on it to be exact.

Embracing Risk in Tournaments:
http://www.chessbase.de/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3528
That link just says that more aggressive players win more tournaments than players who draw more often, which is pretty obvious. It doesn't say they get better scores overall.