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But why en passant over and over again? Why not ask about some other aspect of chess?

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
We still have doubts

What about?

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Originally posted by heinzkat
But why en passant over and over again? Why not ask about some other aspect of chess?
Ok.

Black to move.The king and a8 rook haven't yet moved.Can black castle?

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Originally posted by Ajuin
Ok.

Black to move.The king and a8 rook haven't yet moved.Can black castle?

[fen]r3k1r1/p1pb1ppp/3p1b2/8/8/4PN2/P1PB1PPP/1R3RK1 b q - 0 1[/fen]
I emailed my friend Victor Korchnoi about this, and I'm still waiting to hear back from him...

Paul

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Originally posted by Ajuin
Ok.

Black to move.The king and a8 rook haven't yet moved.Can black castle?

[fen]r3k1r1/p1pb1ppp/3p1b2/8/8/4PN2/P1PB1PPP/1R3RK1 b q - 0 1[/fen]
mhm. I;m a retarded <1400 but as the king isn' t moving through check I would say yes. But I'm sure there is plenty of rules I don't know. That said I've never seen whats so hard about En Passant. If you have a white pawn on the fifth rank and an adjacent pawn makes a double move then you can kill it. If you hesitate and make some other move in between then you can't kill it. Pretty easy.

Basically you have one move to pretend that the opponent has moved one space rather then two.

Retarded <1400 player

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Originally posted by Ajuin
Ok.

Black to move.The king and a8 rook haven't yet moved.Can black castle?



No becase b8 square is under attack.

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Originally posted by CharlieTPB
mhm. I;m a retarded <1400 but as the king isn' t moving through check I would say yes. But I'm sure there is plenty of rules I don't know. That said I've never seen whats so hard about En Passant. If you have a white pawn on the fifth rank and an adjacent pawn makes a double move then you can kill it. If you hesitate and make some other move in between th ...[text shortened]... to pretend that the opponent has moved one space rather then two.

Retarded <1400 player
You are wrong, there are NOT "plenty of rules", just 'the set of rules'! The questions on castling, en passant, promotion options, checking ... keep coming back, and will be coming back as long as a vast majority of chess players have never read the rules of chess (in FAQ here or even better, the FIDE Laws of Chess).

Of course you can castle in the diagram with the conditions given (assuming it is black to move).

On 'en passant', the FAQ gives a pictural definition which is quite clear in itself:
http://www.redhotpawn.com/help/index.php?help=enpassant

I would recommend everyone who hasn't done yet to carefully read the FIDE Laws of chess, they define the game of chess as it is today:
http://www.fide.com/component/handbook/?id=124&view=article

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Sorry, I was wrong about that. black can castle.

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Originally posted by heinzkat
But why en passant over and over again? Why not ask about some other aspect of chess?
Because it's totally counter-intuitive. Imagine a beginner, who's hazy about the rules anyway, faced with an expert who makes an en passant capture against them - they've just moved one bit to a square and removed one of the beginners bits from a completely different one - the beginner's going think they're being had.

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Originally posted by DeepThought
Because it's totally counter-intuitive.
A Knight move is counterintuitive too. 😕

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I say again Diagrams and PGN'S are better than words for explaining things.

Don't be too hard on these lads, a lot of beginners don't know the ep rule
so the Chess Forum is the place to ask. Maybe in future just copy and paste
this post or beter still, design one of your own.

The two move leap was introduced to speed up the game because
they use to start like this.



However, Those against the two move leap argued that a part
chess strategy would be lost.

The 5th rank pawn holding back unmoved pawns.
The pawns could now simply pass the 5th rank pawn.

So En Passant was introduced.

En Passant

White has just played 1.c2-c4



Position after Black captured En Passant

2.bxc3ep



It not obligitory to take En Passant if the opportunity presents itself.
However, if the player wished to capture EP. it must be played on the next move,
you cannot capture EP. three or four moves later.

EN Passent in Action

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There's plenty of misunderstanding about castling too as evidenced by cawsddyn and,indeed,the great viktor korchnoi.Paul knows some chess trivia 🙂

Here's another one many have doubts about:

Black to move.King and rook haven't yet moved.Can he castle?

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Originally posted by Ajuin
There's plenty of misunderstanding about castling too as evidenced by cawsddyn and,indeed,the great viktor korchnoi.Paul knows some chess trivia 🙂

Here's another one many have doubts about:

Black to move.King and rook haven't yet moved.Can he castle?

[fen]4k2r/ppp2p1p/8/2b5/8/1P6/1BP2PPP/4K2R b Kk - 0 1[/fen]
Rg8 is better

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The castling question?

We can ask an ex-World Champion about this.

Euwe - Kramer,Beverwijk, 1950. Black to play.
White's last move was 12.Bb2.



The Black King and Black h1 Rook have not moved.
Can Black castle?

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