Originally posted by robbie carrobieMy comments in this thread have not at all been about me denying the history of football hooliganism that has occurred not only in England but in Scotland also.
oh dear even The Guardian is in on the charade attempting to blame the organisers. If that were really the case then how have no other fans exhibited the same kind of churlish ill bred behaviour due to the ineptitude of the organisers. Furthermore its a piece of nonsense because you were already causing trouble pre match. Epic failure to explain awa ...[text shortened]... post anything and will feel free to expose the bias of the English media towards its hooligans.
My interjections are all to do with the likes of you and especially Seitse making jingoistic comments. The OP itself for example. Many of your posts in this thread for example. Secondly these comments have been made without understanding the facts of the Marseilles incidents, which are now becoming clearer.
Seeing you running around barking out your usual ill-informed anti-English, 700 year old 'come on the Bannarkburn' oafish idiocy in the light of people dying, all motivated by a personal experience you once had - pretty much sums you up Robbie.
13 Jun 16
Originally posted by divegeesterKegge has rightly called you out for being a complete hypocrite. You have also been caught attempting to get leverage from a persons injuries and making emotive arguments. Perhaps if you had a good look at yourself this might have been avoided but its embarrassing seeing you reduced to this.
My comments in this thread have not at all been about me denying the history of football hooliganism that has occurred not only in England but also in Scotland also.
My interjections are all to do with the likes of you and especially Seitse making jingoistic comments. The OP itself for example. Many of your posts in this thread for example. Secondly ...[text shortened]... ple dying, all motivated by a personal experience you once had - pretty much sums you up Robbie.
13 Jun 16
Originally posted by divegeesterNo I did not attempt to get any emotive leverage from my personal experience I was using it to demonstrate that my perspective was not based solely on news reports but on personal experience.
Robbie brought his "personal" injuries into the fray himself.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou need to re-read Kegge's post, all he is doing is agreeing with you about something unspecified. All you are doing is downshifting into obfuscation.
Kegge has rightly called you out for being a complete hypocrite. You have also been caught attempting to get leverage from a persons injuries and making emotive arguments. Perhaps if you had a good look at yourself this might have been avoided but its embarrassing seeing you reduced to this.
You brought your personal incident into the debate, if you didn't want it discussed then you should have had one of your famous "reflections" before doing so. It's out there so it's fair discussion topic.
What is embarrassing is seeing you once again jump both feet first into someone else's cow-pat (this time seitse's) and get covered in poo.
13 Jun 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat is "emotive leverage"? This is a discussion board Robbie.
No I did not attempt to get any emotive leverage from my personal experience I was using it to demonstrate that my perspective was not based solely on news reports but on personal experience.
Lol..
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYes, they are hooligans.
Only last month or so we witnessed Westham fans attacking the Manchester Utd bus as it made its way to Boleyn park.
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Would divegeester care to comment on this and is he still prepared to maintain the position that there is no problem with English football hooliganism?
No there is not a problem (define problem) with football hooliganism in England.
Even if there was, what has it got to do with the Battle of Bannockburn?
13 Jun 16
Originally posted by divegeestersorry but there is nothing of content in your post that could be deed worthy of response and rather than jumping into someone else cow pat i really do think that you have a problem with football hooliganism.
You need to re-read Kegge's post, all he is doing is agreeing with you about something unspecified. All you are doing is downshifting into obfuscation.
You brought your personal incident into the debate, if you didn't want it discussed then you should have had one of your famous "reflections" before doing so. It's out there so it's fair discussion to ...[text shortened]... n jump both feet first into someone else's cow-pat (this time seitse's) and get covered in poo.
Originally posted by divegeesterYes there are hooligans but thats not a problem. Did you really just say that? So you don't find throwing bottles, smashing up buses, shouting obscenities to be a problem.
Yes, they are hooligans.
No there is not a problem (define problem) with football hooliganism in England.
Even if there was, what has it got to do with the Battle of Bannockburn?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe only "problem" I have is with seitse's opening post which is a jingoistic slur on the English thinly disguised as an "honest question".
sorry but there is nothing of content in your post that could be deed worthy of response and rather than jumping into someone else cow pat i really do think that you have a problem with football hooliganism.
Subsequently I have an issue with you. You are part of the problem. Your jingoism and hatred of the English, which you admit goes back (is rooted from) 700 years ago, is a leaf out of the book of everything that is wrong in the world today.
13 Jun 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieNo, that is what you want me to say.
Yes there are hooligans but thats not a problem. Did you really just say that? So you don't find throwing bottles, smashing up buses, shouting obscenities to be a problem.
What I said was, yes they are hooligans. And no, there is not a defined problem with football hooliganism in England.
Yes I object to any kind of hooliganism. They should be birched in my opinion.
13 Jun 16
Originally posted by divegeesteryou are being asked to comment on English hooliganism, you have stated that its not a problem. please explain the smashing up of buses, throwing bottles, shouting obscenities etc etc as exemplified by the football fans of Westham less than two months ago. I am interested to understand why you find this to be non problematic.
The only "problem" I have is with seitse's opening post which is a jingoistic slur on the English thinly disguised as an "honest question".
Subsequently I have an issue with you. You are part of the problem. Your jingoism and hatred of the English, which you admit goes back (is rooted from) 700 years ago, is a leaf out of the book of everything that is wrong in the world today.