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Originally posted by spruce112358You can't. You can't apply rational thought to an irrational act. I think that kids who start off a little "off" become isolated and get even more "off", to the point where they're just not part of reality anymore. That kind of anger is incomprehensible. Isolation and anger are the common traits between this, Columbine, and Virginia Tech. Where does one cross the line and decide to become evil? Just once I wish one of these sons of bitches would live, so they could be studied, and yes, this is unChristian, suffer. I guess that idiot that shot Gabby Giffords lived; he should be pried apart with every tool in the toolbox. The Federal building - I don't use their names because it's what they would have wanted - that guy killed kids too, and was in possession of his faculties.
Well, gramps 😉 , I just don't know.
The first details (maybe still inaccurate) are a kid who was bright, a goth, a loner, maybe with a personality disorder. Plenty smart enough to work out another way to kill a lot of people if that was his exit strategy.
The question is, why?
Originally posted by no1marauderSure, but I doubt that banning a type of clip will solve anything. It's the capacity of the humans we need to worry about.
How many more times does this scenario have to get played out before people like you accept the undeniable fact that having high capacity mags legal contributes to the lethality of such incidents? He may have been all of those things, but he doesn't seem to have used anything but what was readily available to him; maybe we should make these people "work" ...[text shortened]... n magazines here: http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=137101&page=&page=7
Originally posted by spruce112358It wouldn't "solve" the problem. It would, in all likelihood, reduce the carnage and do so without any loss to the fundamental natural right of self-defense. That is something.
Sure, but I doubt that banning a type of clip will solve anything. It's the capacity of the humans we need to worry about.
Originally posted by no1marauderYour argument is valid. I'd counter with, well, just buy more 10-round clips.
It wouldn't "solve" the problem. It would, in all likelihood, reduce the carnage and do so without any loss to the fundamental natural right of self-defense. That is something.
Originally posted by sasquatch672I have plenty of 30 round magazines, for either of my magazine fed guns. For most purposes, I also have 5 and 10 round magazines that make the guns far easier to tote, aim, and fire.
Your argument is valid. I'd counter with, well, just buy more 10-round clips.
If you're emptying a 30-round clip in a combat situation, you're in deep kimchee. If you're emptying a 30-round clip in a government overthrow, well, ok, you would do that. The beauty of our system is it's designed so we never get there.
Yeah, ok. No more 30-roun ...[text shortened]... h to settle the issue once and for all, people would feel more comfortable giving ground.
Originally posted by normbenign"Liberal speak"?
I have plenty of 30 round magazines, for either of my magazine fed guns. For most purposes, I also have 5 and 10 round magazines that make the guns far easier to tote, aim, and fire.
Unless you are shooting a full auto assault rifle, I conclude that in most cases the 30 rounders are superfluous. They guy in Aurora, CO had a 100 round drum which jammed ...[text shortened]... what to do, who has absolutely no concept of the why or wherefore of what equipment I am using.
Originally posted by normbenignI get you man. And I don't want it either. We're going to get beaten about the head over this.
I have plenty of 30 round magazines, for either of my magazine fed guns. For most purposes, I also have 5 and 10 round magazines that make the guns far easier to tote, aim, and fire.
Unless you are shooting a full auto assault rifle, I conclude that in most cases the 30 rounders are superfluous. They guy in Aurora, CO had a 100 round drum which jammed ...[text shortened]... what to do, who has absolutely no concept of the why or wherefore of what equipment I am using.
Originally posted by normbenignRegular cleaning of feed mechanism and magazine will for the most part solve that issue.
I have plenty of 30 round magazines, for either of my magazine fed guns. For most purposes, I also have 5 and 10 round magazines that make the guns far easier to tote, aim, and fire.
Unless you are shooting a full auto assault rifle, I conclude that in most cases the 30 rounders are superfluous. They guy in Aurora, CO had a 100 round drum which jammed ...[text shortened]... what to do, who has absolutely no concept of the why or wherefore of what equipment I am using.