@kevcvs57 saidI'm a NZer kev, a NZ libertarian, even posted a vid how to bully maga hat wearing far right red neck neo nazis.
The attacker was an ultra right wing republican MAGA Just like you, AJ, Mott and the rest of the forums crazy gang so I can see why your being all girly and defensive about it.
@wajoma saidYour still a big trump fan and extreme libertarians are about as right as it gets fiscally speaking + your stance almost always coincides with the MAGA hat wearing mob but I already you were antipodean.
I'm a NZer kev, a NZ libertarian, even posted a vid how to bully maga hat wearing far right red neck neo nazis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnb-uxAcbIY&t=162s
I don’t want to bully anyone but MAGAs need to accept that they and trump have seen to it that the phrase MAGA has some very negative connotations associated with, especially in relation to women and minority rights, very naive of them to not think about where they parade their allegiance.
@kevcvs57 saidI see what you mean, it would be better MAAS Make America A Shythole
Your still a big trump fan and extreme libertarians are about as right as it gets fiscally speaking + your stance almost always coincides with the MAGA hat wearing mob but I already you were antipodean.
I don’t want to bully anyone but MAGAs need to accept that they and trump have seen to it that the phrase MAGA has some very negative connotations associated with, especiall ...[text shortened]... women and minority rights, very naive of them to not think about where they parade their allegiance.
I'll wager $200 you can't find anything pro-Trump from me in any post.
BTW what's the grounds for this guy being MAGA? He lived in a house with BLM and LGBTQ+ flags on it, and he was found in his under wear. Doesn't sound very MAGA to me.
@wajoma saidThat would all be great for you if you weren’t just repeating MAGA / Qanon fantasies / bare face lies 🙄
I see what you mean, it would be better MAAS Make America A Shythole
I'll wager $200 you can't find anything pro-Trump from me in any post.
BTW what's the grounds for this guy being MAGA? He lived in a house with BLM and LGBTQ+ flags on it, and he was found in his under wear. Doesn't sound very MAGA to me.
Err your jumping to the defence of the MAGA’s right now and pathetically trying to make it about antifa and the lgbtq+ community that how I know your lying about being a genuine fiscal and no more libertarian 🙄
@wajoma saidNo idiot it’s not the idea of MAGA itself it’s because of the racist homophobic misogynistic election lying scum that have attached themselves to the concept. “Patriotism is the last refuge if the scoundrel”. They could have wrote that one for Trump and his hater base.
I see what you mean, it would be better MAAS Make America A Shythole
I'll wager $200 you can't find anything pro-Trump from me in any post.
BTW what's the grounds for this guy being MAGA? He lived in a house with BLM and LGBTQ+ flags on it, and he was found in his under wear. Doesn't sound very MAGA to me.
How do think a rainbow flag wrapped dem canvasser would fare in a hard right maga area?
@wajoma said“I'll wager $200 you can't find anything pro-Trump from me in any post. “
I see what you mean, it would be better MAAS Make America A Shythole
I'll wager $200 you can't find anything pro-Trump from me in any post.
BTW what's the grounds for this guy being MAGA? He lived in a house with BLM and LGBTQ+ flags on it, and he was found in his under wear. Doesn't sound very MAGA to me.
I hope that’s US dollars and you can donate it to ‘Christians against Poverty’ for me cheers.
@kevcvs57 said3 posts in a row, you're rabid kev, what's the matter with you, don't forget to breathe.
That would all be great for you if you weren’t just repeating MAGA / Qanon fantasies / bare face lies 🙄
Err your jumping to the defence of the MAGA’s right now and pathetically trying to make it about antifa and the lgbtq+ community that how I know your lying about being a genuine fiscal and no more libertarian 🙄
If it's a lie you have to hand it to them for the set up, I've seen vid of the house and interviews with the neighbors, gone to a lot of trouble , deserve some points for that at least.
@kevcvs57 saidLOL…kev taking this lovers spat serious😂
No idiot it’s not the idea of MAGA itself it’s because of the racist homophobic misogynistic election lying scum that have attached themselves to the concept. “Patriotism is the last refuge if the scoundrel”. They could have wrote that one for Trump and his hater base.
How do think a rainbow flag wrapped dem canvasser would fare in a hard right maga area?
@wajoma saidYeah sure Wajoma a house with rainbow and antifa flags how very convenient 😂😂
3 posts in a row, you're rabid kev, what's the matter with you, don't forget to breathe.
If it's a lie you have to hand it to them for the set up, I've seen vid of the house and interviews with the neighbors, gone to a lot of trouble , deserve some points for that at least.
The truth will out but until then I’ll just keep posting reputable links to the story and you MAGAs can stick with zero hedge and truth social 🙄
@kevcvs57 saidI'm going to win another $200 here, show where I have ever linked to zerohedge or truth social.
Yeah sure Wajoma a house with rainbow and antifa flags how very convenient 😂😂
The truth will out but until then I’ll just keep posting reputable links to the story and you MAGAs can stick with zero hedge and truth social 🙄
@wajoma saidYour not winning anything unless there a prize for the biggest forum coward mate. You constantly post in line with the maga crowd the fact that you pretend to not be one would ironically only fool someone who was actually a maga anyway. You ain’t fooling no libs with your non partisan facade.
I'm going to win another $200 here, show where I have ever linked to zerohedge or truth social.
It's amusing the far right nuts here are spreading misinformation gleaned from the same sources DePape relied on:
"DePape had a complicated political presence online, making posts that questioned the 2020 election outcome and promoted QAnon conspiracy theories. "
"DePape has also been tied to a number of social media accounts and blogs sharing far-right conspiracy theories.
Two blogs authored by a “daviddepape” included recent posts with antisemitic content and claims of election fraud as well as a video of Nancy Pelosi at one of former President Trump’s impeachment proceedings, according to CNN.
In some posts, the author defended former President Trump and the rapper Ye, formerly known as Kanye West, who has come under criticism for antisemitic comments.
In one post from last month, an author under DePape’s name wrote that journalists who denied the former president’s fraud claims about the 2020 presidential election “should be dragged straight out into the street and shot,” according to the AP."
https://thehill.com/homenews/3711633-what-we-know-about-suspected-paul-pelosi-attacker/
"A CBS News review of suspected social media posts by DePape turned up conspiracy theories about Holocaust denial, pedophiles in the government, and claims that Democratic officials run child sex rings."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paul-pelosi-attack-suspect-target-list-sources-say-nancy-pelosi-husband/
As to the fake rumors:
"San Francisco police officials shared information with NBC News that directly contradicts the claims in the story Musk linked to.
Police said only two people — Pelosi and the attacker — were at the home at the time of the incident, contradicting information shared at a news conference Friday that suggested a third person might have opened the door or been in the house, which the Santa Monica Observer reported.
Police officials characterized the incident as a "violent break-in" and said Pelosi and the suspect did not know each other before the incident, contrary to false claims reported by the Santa Monica Observer.
Police added that zip ties were found at the scene but did not specify how many or their intended purpose."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/elon-musk-new-owner-twitter-tweets-unfounded-conspiracy-theory-paul-pe-rcna54717
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@no1marauder saidNo.1, do you believe David DePepe is a MAGA maniac?
It's amusing the far right nuts here are spreading misinformation gleaned from the same sources DePape relied on:
"DePape had a complicated political presence online, making posts that questioned the 2020 election outcome and promoted QAnon conspiracy theories. "
"DePape has also been tied to a number of social media accounts and blogs sharing far-right conspiracy t ...[text shortened]... ws.com/news/us-news/elon-musk-new-owner-twitter-tweets-unfounded-conspiracy-theory-paul-pe-rcna54717
Because that is my point of contention. You've posted a lot of stuff here that was not being discussed and is very vague, for eg Kanye West has millions of followers, is it your belief that they're all 'MAGA maniacs?
Are you defending kevs rantings?
Do you know what "complicated political presence online" means, it's cover for other things DePape has posted online that don't fit the narrative? are you prepared to make the leap from "complicated political presence online" to MAGA maniac?
The 911 dispatcher tape names Depape by his first name 'David" and states he is a "friend".
The attack happened after the police arrived, that is direct from San Francisco police chief William Scott.
Are you going to the dunce corner with kev (sonhouse made a narrow escape).
@wajoma saidUnlike you, I have read the Federal Criminal Complaint against DePape. Here's the portion regarding the defendant's statements given to police:
No.1, do you believe David DePepe is a MAGA maniac?
Because that is my point of contention. You've posted a lot of stuff here that was not being discussed and is very vague, for eg Kanye West has millions of followers, is it your belief that they're all 'MAGA maniacs?
Are you defending kevs rantings?
Do you know what "complicated political presence online" means, it's ...[text shortened]... chief William Scott.
Are you going to the dunce corner with kev (sonhouse made a narrow escape).
"In a Mirandized and recorded interview of DEPAPE by San Francisco Police
Department Officers, DEPAPE provided the following information:
a. DEPAPE stated that he was going to hold Nancy hostage and talk to her. If
Nancy were to tell DEPAPE the “truth,” he would let her go, and if she “lied,” he
was going to break “her kneecaps.” DEPAPE was certain that Nancy would not
have told the “truth.” In the course of the interview, DEPAPE articulated he
viewed Nancy as the “leader of the pack” of lies told by the Democratic Party.
DEPAPE also later explained that by breaking Nancy’s kneecaps, she would then
have to be wheeled into Congress, which would show other Members of Congress
there were consequences to actions. DEPAPE also explained generally that he
wanted to use Nancy to lure another individual to DEPAPE.
b. DEPAPE stated that he broke into the house through a glass door, which was a
difficult task that required the use of a hammer. DEPAPE stated that Pelosi was in
bed and appeared surprised by DEPAPE. DEPAPE told Pelosi to wake up.
DEPAPE told Pelosi that he was looking for Nancy. Pelosi responded that she
was not present. Pelosi asked how they could resolve the situation, and what
DEPAPE wanted to do. DEPAPE stated he wanted to tie Pelosi up so that
DEPAPE could go to sleep as he was tired from having had to carry a backpack to
the Pelosi residence. Around this time, according to DEPAPE, DEPAPE started
taking out twist ties from his pocket so that he could restrain Pelosi. Pelosi
moved towards another part of the house, but DEPAPE stopped him and together
they went back into the bedroom.
c. While talking with each other, Pelosi went into a bathroom, where Pelosi grabbed
a phone to call 9-1-1. DEPAPE stated he felt like Pelosi’s actions compelled him
to respond.
d. DEPAPE remembered thinking that there was no way the police were going to
forget about the phone call. DEPAPE explained that he did not leave after
Pelosi’s call to 9-1-1 because, much like the American founding fathers with the
British, he was fighting against tyranny without the option of surrender. DEPAPE
reiterated this sentiment elsewhere in the interview.
e. DEPAPE stated that they went downstairs to the front door. The police arrived
and knocked on the door, and Pelosi ran over and opened it. Pelosi grabbed onto
DEPAPE’s hammer, which was in DEPAPE’s hand. At this point in the
interview, DEPAPE repeated that DEPAPE did not plan to surrender and that he
would go “through” Pelosi.
f. DEPAPE stated that he pulled the hammer away from Pelosi and swung the
hammer towards Pelosi. DEPAPE explained that Pelosi’s actions resulted in
Pelosi “taking the punishment instead.”
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1548106/download?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery
Have fun in that "dunce corner".
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@no1marauder saidNo.1 do you believe Depape is a MAGA maniac?
Unlike you, I have read the Federal Criminal Complaint against DePape. Here's the portion regarding the defendant's statements given to police:
"In a Mirandized and recorded interview of DEPAPE by San Francisco Police
Department Officers, DEPAPE provided the following information:
a. DEPAPE stated that he was going to hold Nancy hostage and talk to her. If
Nancy wer ...[text shortened]... se/file/1548106/download?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery
Have fun in that "dunce corner".
Edit in case you missed it the first time: Because that is my point of contention.
I am prepared to discuss why your post does not back kevs rantings, we're trying to ascertain are you defending kevs rantings, are you claiming DePape was a 'MAGA maniac' and from there we'll see how close you are to the dunce corner (and kev)