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@KellyJay said
Do you have anything to add to the discussion, or do you just want to talk about me?
Did you read his post?

He made his point.


@KellyJay said
Many things are now legal because people no longer feel personal responsibility or fear the consequences, making it hard not to act on rage when you feel even slightly slighted under those circumstances.
It's difficult to "fear consequences" when we have a president whose hobby seems to be pardoning criminals.

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@Rajk999 said
It is the fault of the American jurors aka the American public do not have a well developed conscience. It happened because some decades ago the Bible was condemned and removed from schools, the religious people were ridiculed. The focus of society is material wealth and temporary pleasure. While there are still many good things about the American society, it is clearly failing as a nation.
You do realize this country (America) has a 250 year history of recognizing the separation of church and state, don't you? There is a reason for this, even if you're too short-sighted to see it.

If you want a religion-based government, go make your own country.


@KellyJay said
How can someone who killed her three children and confessing to it, not be guilty, saying mental issues could be used for every crime after the fact, is that valid to avoid consquences for murder of children, or others like innocent victims just sitting on a bus or train?
When the Air Force does it they just say "oops" and everyone forgives them.

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@KellyJay said
How about throwing them in jail and leaving them there until their time is up, and have no doubt about that.
We let people get away with major felonies all the time (cough cough). You can't arbitrarily pick and choose who doesn't have to be punished and who does.

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@AThousandYoung said
We let people get away with major felonies all the time (cough cough). You can't arbitrarily pick and choose who doesn't have to be punished and who does.
And at any time when that happens, is it a good thing?

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@KellyJay said
And at any time when that happens, is it a good thing?
No. It shows that our laws are too strict and our justice system underfunded.

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@AThousandYoung said
When the Air Force does it they just say "oops" and everyone forgives them.
A totally stupid reply

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@KellyJay said
How can someone who killed her three children and confessing to it, not be guilty, saying mental issues could be used for every crime after the fact, is that valid to avoid consquences for murder of children, or others like innocent victims just sitting on a bus or train?
It wasn't quite "not guilty", it was a hung jury with one holdout who didn't agree with acquittal. She can still be tried again.

Unlike other insanity pleas, she has a history of seeking help prior to the murders; she tried to get psychiatric help and confessed the murderous thoughts she was having. She was even prescribed medication which seemed to worsen her condition. The psych ward (or whatever the correct term is) declined to detain her because she had not yet formulated a plan for murder (which is stupid, in my opinion).

In short, she knew she was a danger to her children and tried to seek help but what she received was not sufficient. She told therapists about her issues and even told her husband this. She was also diagnosed with post-partum mental health issues, prior to the murder.

The woman is also paralyzed from the waist down after attempting suicide.

I'm not saying she should've gone free but the details of this case are unusual. Personally; i think she should've been convicted but her sentence should take into consideration all the facts of this case.

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@vivify said
It wasn't quite "not guilty", it was a hung jury with one holdout who didn't agree with acquittal. She can still be tried again.

Unlike other insanity pleas, she has a history of seeking help prior to the murders; she tried to get psychiatric help and confessed the murderous thoughts she was having. She was even prescribed medication which seemed to worsen her condition ...[text shortened]... should've been convicted but her sentence should take into consideration all the facts of this case.
She should have been convicted I agree.

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@KellyJay said
She should have been convicted I agree.
Did you hear every bit of evidence at the trial like the jury did?

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@AThousandYoung said
No. It shows that our laws are too strict and our justice system underfunded.
Or more than few moral compasses are upside down.

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@no1marauder said
Did you hear every bit of evidence at the trial like the jury did?
I heard her admit it, you got something to add to that?

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@KellyJay said
I heard her admit it, you got something to add to that?
Did you read the material I posted regarding the insanity defense?