1. SubscriberSuzianne
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    @metal-brain said
    MOST VACCINATED COUNTRIES HOLDING BACK WORLD COVID FALL. UK VACCINE FALL CONTINUES CASE FALL. FORCED CHILD VACCINATION WILL RAISE CASES. SCOTTISH DEATHS MAINLY FROM VACCINATED. BIG TECH CENSORSHIP

    http://freenations.net/most-vaccinated-countries-holding-back-world-covid-fall-uk-vaccine-fall-continues-case-fall-forced-child-vaccination-will-raise-cases-scottish-deaths-mainly-from-vaccinated-big-tech-censorship/
    Keep screaming. You remind me of MTG on the steps of the US Capitol. You're as manipulative as she is.

    They're bringing a custom-fitted straight-jacket for you any minute now.

    And for God's sake, stop posting links to far-right conspiracy theory sites.
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    @metal-brain said
    The vaccinated spread covid just as much, if not more than the unvaccinated.
    That is why the most vaccinated nations have the most cases.
    That is plain wrong as detailed numerous times.

    vaccination reduces the risk to get COVID by at leat 80%, with some vaccines by 95%.

    As calculated before here once again for you: If we have 100 vaccinated and 100 unvaccinated people in a group that gets exposed to the Virus (which has been isolated according to current stanrdas of science). The vaccinated group will have maximally 20 cases, the unvaccinated about 80.
    Plus the vaccinated are more probably keeping safety measures....

    Now give me your caluclation.
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    @ponderable said
    That is plain wrong as detailed numerous times.

    vaccination reduces the risk to get COVID by at leat 80%, with some vaccines by 95%.

    As calculated before here once again for you: If we have 100 vaccinated and 100 unvaccinated people in a group that gets exposed to the Virus (which has been isolated according to current stanrdas of science). The vaccinated group will ...[text shortened]...
    Plus the vaccinated are more probably keeping safety measures....

    Now give me your caluclation.
    I didn't say covid.
    Covid is not a virus, it is the sickness caused by the virus.

    The gene vaccines do not stop the spread of the virus. They don't slow it down either. If they did the most vaxxed nations would have a lower infection rate. They have the highest rates of infection.

    Sorry to confuse you with facts.
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    @ponderable said
    That is plain wrong as detailed numerous times.

    vaccination reduces the risk to get COVID by at leat 80%, with some vaccines by 95%.

    As calculated before here once again for you: If we have 100 vaccinated and 100 unvaccinated people in a group that gets exposed to the Virus (which has been isolated according to current stanrdas of science). The vaccinated group will ...[text shortened]...
    Plus the vaccinated are more probably keeping safety measures....

    Now give me your caluclation.
    If it was wrong the most vaxxed nations would have the lowest case rate. The opposite is true.

    The delta variant changed everything. Viral load increased with it.
    There are also other factors like vaccinated people going out and about more than the unvaccinated, less social distancing from the vaccinated and less hand washing.

    Why do you keep ignoring the title to this thread? It proves your sources wrong.
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    @metal-brain said
    If it was wrong the most vaxxed nations would have the lowest case rate. The opposite is true.

    The delta variant changed everything. Viral load increased with it.
    There are also other factors like vaccinated people going out and about more than the unvaccinated, less social distancing from the vaccinated and less hand washing.

    Why do you keep ignoring the title to this thread? It proves your sources wrong.
    Your title proves nothing, you clickbait moron.
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    @shavixmir said
    Your title proves nothing, you clickbait moron.
    All you have to do is prove the title is wrong.
    Can you do that?
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    From the link below:

    "In other words, as far as the transmission of the prevalent delta variant is concerned, it does not matter whether one is vaccinated or not. According to CDC analysis both groups appear to become infected and infect others at the same rate."

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/09/vasko-kohlmayer/lying-through-their-teeth-health-officials-know-vaccines-dont-stop-transmission-but-talk-about-a-pandemic-of-the-unvaccinated/

    You can view and examine this internal CDC document for yourself as the Washington Post has made it available on its website.
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    High Recorded Mortality in Countries Categorized as “Covid-19 Vaccine Champions”. The Vaccinated Suffer from Increased Risk of Mortality compared to the Non-vaccinated

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/high-recorded-mortality-in-countries-categorized-as-covid-19-vaccine-champions-increased-hospitalization/5757173
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    @metal-brain said
    The vaccinated spread covid just as much, if not more than the unvaccinated.
    That is why the most vaccinated nations have the most cases.
    Where is your source for that
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    @kevcvs57 said
    Where is your source for that
    My OP contains my source.
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    If the vaccinated do not spread covid as much why do the most vaxxed countries have the most cases?

    Answer: The vaccinated spread it just as much if not more.
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    @metal-brain said
    If the vaccinated do not spread covid as much why do the most vaxxed countries have the most cases?

    Answer: The vaccinated spread it just as much if not more.
    Nope. Your assumptions are completely wrong and even the conclusion you’re trying to draw doesn’t match them.

    You, sir, are a complete moron.
    What’s worse is that you’re constantly spreading misinformation. A right-wing troll that latches on to retard and runs with it.

    You are the Forrest Gump of Debates.
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    @shavixmir said
    Nope. Your assumptions are completely wrong and even the conclusion you’re trying to draw doesn’t match them.

    You, sir, are a complete moron.
    What’s worse is that you’re constantly spreading misinformation. A right-wing troll that latches on to retard and runs with it.

    You are the Forrest Gump of Debates.
    If that is true why do the most vaxxed countries have the most cases?
    It isn't a trick question. Either you can explain it or you cannot.
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    @metal-brain said
    If that is true why do the most vaxxed countries have the most cases?
    It isn't a trick question. Either you can explain it or you cannot.
    It is not.
    There are countries that have less covid. That part is true. But there are many factors that contribute to that:
    Age of population.
    Population density.
    Active measures taken to curb infection rates.
    Average temperature.
    Average moisture levels.
    Etc.

    To simplify matters to the extent you want, to fit the framing you want, is complete ignorance of what’s going on or you’re deliberately spreading moronity.

    You choose.

    Countries with most Corona cases:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/countries-where-coronavirus-has-spread/

    Countries with highest vaccination rates:

    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/covid-19-vaccination-rates-by-country
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    @shavixmir said
    It is not.
    There are countries that have less covid. That part is true. But there are many factors that contribute to that:
    Age of population.
    Population density.
    Active measures taken to curb infection rates.
    Average temperature.
    Average moisture levels.
    Etc.

    To simplify matters to the extent you want, to fit the framing you want, is complete ignorance of what’s going on or you’re deliberately spreading moronity.

    You choose.
    Age of population does not have any effect on the case rate.
    All states and nations have cities.
    Temperature makes no difference. Florida had a rough summer.
    Moisture levels make little or no difference. Arizona has about the same case rate as Michigan.

    Every single thing on your list is bunk.
    The gene vaccines do not stop or slow the spread. Stop living in denial.
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