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    People are making covid the end of the world.

    The percent dead is no where near the Spanish Flu numbers. Face it, the Western world is made up of pansies who would trade freedom for the promise of security at the drop of a hat.
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    @sh76 said
    The political conversion of catching a highly contagious respiratory infection into a moral failure is an insidious element of COVID hysteria.
    Funny, right wingers have been blaming STDs on moral failing for centuries.
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    @eladar said
    People are making covid the end of the world.

    The percent dead is no where near the Spanish Flu numbers. Face it, the Western world is made up of pansies who would trade freedom for the promise of security at the drop of a hat.
    The "Spanish" flu had millions of immune compromised injured soldiers to work on. Not a reasonable comparison.
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    @athousandyoung said
    The "Spanish" flu had millions of immune compromised injured soldiers to work on. Not a reasonable comparison.
    I am simply comparing deaths.

    We survived then and today's numbers are nothing compared to those.
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    @eladar said
    I am simply comparing deaths.

    We survived then and today's numbers are nothing compared to those.
    Actually that was followed by the Great Depression. There was a similar emphasis on the stock market at the time too. Somebody should do something to break the pattern.
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    @athousandyoung said
    Actually that was followed by the Great Depression. There was a similar emphasis on the stock market at the time too. Somebody should do something to break the pattern.
    So we did not survive.

    What an odd view of history you have.
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    @eladar said
    So we did not survive.

    What an odd view of history you have.
    We survived everything. Does that mean nobody should do anything to minimize the damage done by disasters and plagues? What is your point?
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    @athousandyoung said
    We survived everything. Does that mean nobody should do anything to minimize the damage done by disasters and plagues? What is your point?
    Minimize? You mean like how the Hong Kong Flu was minimized?

    Face it, the average age of death is 75, shutting down restaurants and school due to a virus that kills very few people outside the retirement age was ridiculous.

    What we should not have is destructive hype.
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    @athousandyoung said
    The "Spanish" flu had millions of immune compromised injured soldiers to work on. Not a reasonable comparison.
    Approximately 500,000,000 people were infected with the virus known as Spanish flu, and 50,000,000 died of it.

    Fifty million people died of it a hundred years ago in a continent of a tenth of todays population. Today it would hundreds of millions. This covid thing is nothing like the virus of Spanish flu.

    Your time of doom will come, this isn’t it.
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    @eladar said
    People are making covid the end of the world.

    The percent dead is no where near the Spanish Flu numbers. Face it, the Western world is made up of pansies who would trade freedom for the promise of security at the drop of a hat.
    And it is a FAKE security.

    Wait until the smoke clears and the coast is all clear. People will come out and find
    out just how many businesses have been shuttered permanently.

    Everything in the travel industry, airlines, airports (1 in 4 in EU are insolvent now),
    hotels, tourist spots, food and beverage industry, sports leagues, movie theaters.

    It's going to be a long time to recover. Long time.
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    @earl-of-trumps said
    And it is a FAKE security.

    Wait until the smoke clears and the coast is all clear. People will come out and find
    out just how many businesses have been shuttered permanently.

    Everything in the travel industry, airlines, airports (1 in 4 in EU are insolvent now),
    hotels, tourist spots, food and beverage industry, sports leagues, movie theaters.

    It's going to be a long time to recover. Long time.
    Thought about this a bit and many will not realize just how bad as many businesses will have new owners. One persons life destroyed means an opportunity for others. Many will life in an ignorant bliss of the severity of what has happened.
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    Grab the tinfoil hats, this thread has left reality.
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    @eladar said
    Minimize? You mean like how the Hong Kong Flu was minimized?

    Face it, the average age of death is 75, shutting down restaurants and school due to a virus that kills very few people outside the retirement age was ridiculous.

    What we should not have is destructive hype.
    One would think considering how absurdly and catastrophically wrong virtually everything you predicted about this pandemic turned out, you'd be a bit embarrassed to keep pontificating about it.

    At last (under)count over 85,000 Americans under 75 and 40,000 under 65 have officially been tallied as dying from COVID. https://www.heritage.org/data-visualizations/public-health/covid-19-deaths-by-age/

    Using excess mortality numbers the full count so far in the US is about 300,000 dead. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

    Taking the advice of the COVID deniers here would surely result in many more.
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    @eladar said
    Minimize? You mean like how the Hong Kong Flu was minimized?

    Face it, the average age of death is 75, shutting down restaurants and school due to a virus that kills very few people outside the retirement age was ridiculous.

    What we should not have is destructive hype.
    We'll survive the destructive hype. We'll survive shutting down restaurants and schools.
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    @divegeester said
    Approximately 500,000,000 people were infected with the virus known as Spanish flu, and 50,000,000 died of it.

    Fifty million people died of it a hundred years ago in a continent of a tenth of todays population. Today it would hundreds of millions. This covid thing is nothing like the virus of Spanish flu.

    Your time of doom will come, this isn’t it.
    You cannot compare the two viruses without emphasizing the context of WW1. The Great War was a huge factor in spreading that virus.

    https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-second-wave-resurgence#:~:text=The%20horrific%20scale%20of%20the,during%20World%20War%20I%20combined.

    While the global pandemic lasted for two years, a significant number of deaths were packed into three especially cruel months in the fall of 1918. Historians now believe that the fatal severity of the Spanish flu’s “second wave” was caused by a mutated virus spread by wartime troop movements.

    When the Spanish flu first appeared in early March 1918, it had all the hallmarks of a seasonal flu, albeit a highly contagious and virulent strain. One of the first registered cases was Albert Gitchell, a U.S. Army cook at Camp Funston in Kansas, who was hospitalized with a 104-degree fever. The virus spread quickly through the Army installation, home to 54,000 troops. By the end of the month, 1,100 troops had been hospitalized and 38 had died after developing pneumonia.

    As U.S. troops deployed en masse for the war effort in Europe, they carried the Spanish flu with them. Throughout April and May of 1918, the virus spread like wildfire through England, France, Spain and Italy. An estimated three-quarters of the French military was infected in the spring of 1918 and as many as half of British troops. Yet the first wave of the virus didn't appear to be particularly deadly, with symptoms like high fever and malaise usually lasting only three days. According to limited public health data from the time, mortality rates were similar to seasonal flu.

    In late August 1918, military ships departed the English port city of Plymouth carrying troops unknowingly infected with this new, far deadlier strain of Spanish flu. As these ships arrived in cities like Brest in France, Boston in the United States and Freetown in west Africa, the second wave of the global pandemic began.

    “The rapid movement of soldiers around the globe was a major spreader of the disease,” says James Harris, a historian at Ohio State University who studies both infectious disease and World War I. “The entire military industrial complex of moving lots of men and material in crowded conditions was certainly a huge contributing factor in the ways the pandemic spread.”
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