Bernie is a Self Declared Socialist

@averagejoe1 said
Go, Zahlanzi. Narrative city! Hate the rich. Good thinking. Funny how you libs are always 'looking over the fence'. Why is what your neighbor (e.g., Varney) does of any business of yours? Let's say I go out and sell a car wash today for $250K, and buy a lake house with it. Based on your post above, you should call me a slimy person, and that my 'richness' is not des ...[text shortened]... uld be rich. Do you?
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Stupid people like to simplify things. Their heads cannot hold too many ideas or too complex ones.


You can't comprehend what being a democratic socialist means so you equate it with communism. Learning new things is hard.
Same with your "should rich people be rich" question. A smart person won't answer yes or no. The situation is complex. How rich is that person. How did he become rich? How does he stay rich?

But since you're not very smart, you want easy answers. One sillable preferably.

"Based on your post above, you should call me a slimy person, and that my 'richness' is not deserved."
I don't know you, i have no idea. Have you paid your workers as little as possible? Have you bought them the cheapest medical insurance you were legally allowed to? Have you fired them if they tried to unionize? Have you given money to politicians so they would pass laws in your favour but against most other people?

@zahlanzi said
"Manchin is a democrat. "
It's true he has a little D next to his name whenever he appears on TV.

"Democrats need to clean up their own party before telling republicans they are corrupt."
One can do both. It bears reminding, ALL republicans voted against the bill.

So you would have voted for it? I don't believe it. If you were an American taxpayer, that is. And father, and husband, and citizen, and everything that goes with all that.? You would throw it all away and put on a brown shirt and get in line? You would not.....

@zahlanzi said
Stupid people like to simplify things. Their heads cannot hold too many ideas or too complex ones.


You can't comprehend what being a democratic socialist means so you equate it with communism. Learning new things is hard.
Same with your "should rich people be rich" question. A smart person won't answer yes or no. The situation is complex. How rich is that person. How ...[text shortened]... you given money to politicians so they would pass laws in your favour but against most other people?

No, I’ve been a good citizen, religious to a fault, take care of everyone I can. I raise people worthy of raising. I shed dependents who poison my staff. Funny, mostly all are liberals who think the world owes them something. It, the govt, does not, except for the constitutional law.
You see, you are like them. And your conversations are riddled with the Marx dictum. No one seems to be able to define it, so I guess I can have my own def. ...you are Marxism to me. I hate it for you, esp if you all succeed, all equal. I would DESPISE being all equal. Guess you are closer to Marx than am I. Brrrrrrrr

@AverageJoe1
If I lived next door to you, and was real rich, you would hate me, judge me. You got problems, my man.

@averagejoe1 said
No, I’ve been a good citizen, religious to a fault, take care of everyone I can. I raise people worthy of raising. I shed dependents who poison my staff. Funny, mostly all are liberals who think the world owes them something. It, the govt, does not, except for the constitutional law.
You see, you are like them. And your conversations are riddled with the Marx dictum. ...[text shortened]... d, all equal. I would DESPISE being all equal. Guess you are closer to Marx than am I. Brrrrrrrr

"No, I’ve been a good citizen, religious to a fault, "
Excellent choice of words. At least you're not lying about that. Religious, not christian. You call people that are advocating for a fraction of what Jesus advocated marxists. You are intolerant. You don't love thine neighbor. You are a pharisee.

"And your conversations are riddled with the Marx dictum. "
Another way to look at it is that they are riddled with Jesus'. The guy you supposedly support (when it's convenient ofc)

"No one seems to be able to define it,"
haha, plenty of people define it, you're just unable or unwilling to understand the concept.

" I guess I can have my own def"
nope. that's not how the real world works. That's how fox news and tucker carlson work and we mock them for it.

"you are Marxism to me"
Yes we've known for a while you call people marxist if they try the mildest social measures.

"you are closer to Marx than am I"
That's true , I guess. And i am happy for it. It makes me a better person than you.

@zahlanzi said
"No, I’ve been a good citizen, religious to a fault, "
Excellent choice of words. At least you're not lying about that. Religious, not christian. You call people that are advocating for a fraction of what Jesus advocated marxists. You are intolerant. You don't love thine neighbor. You are a pharisee.

"And your conversations are riddled with the Marx dictum. "
Another w ...[text shortened]... Marx than am I"
That's true , I guess. And i am happy for it. It makes me a better person than you.

Whatever. Go wild.
Why would you think I don't love my neighbor. Surely you can imagine that I am charitable, for many many reasons. Or, you can think I am not,.... that won't go anywhere, anyway . I think you the marxist, you think I don't love my neighbor. We're even.
When you say love my neighbor, I have a feeling that you mean support my neighbor? Naa, don't do that. I would if he were in a wheelchair, of course. Who wouldn't? But if he has chosen to need support, made some bad choices he many have some problems.

@averagejoe1 said
No, I’ve been a good citizen, religious to a fault, take care of everyone I can. I raise people worthy of raising. I shed dependents who poison my staff. Funny, mostly all are liberals who think the world owes them something. It, the govt, does not, except for the constitutional law.
You see, you are like them. And your conversations are riddled with the Marx dictum. ...[text shortened]... d, all equal. I would DESPISE being all equal. Guess you are closer to Marx than am I. Brrrrrrrr

You mean.....

You shed imaginary dependents who poison your imaginary staff.

Don't you ?? 😛

@AverageJoe1
Oh, you think we don't know about the conflict of interest of Manchin? Did you think also we would ignore that? What I am waiting for is 22 when we beat your sorry ass at the voting booth.

@averagejoe1 said
So you would have voted for it? I don't believe it. If you were an American taxpayer, that is. And father, and husband, and citizen, and everything that goes with all that.? You would throw it all away and put on a brown shirt and get in line? You would not.....

Single people pay taxes too.
Single liberals.

@averagejoe1 said
So you would have voted for it? I don't believe it. If you were an American taxpayer, that is. And father, and husband, and citizen, and everything that goes with all that.? You would throw it all away and put on a brown shirt and get in line? You would not.....

Yes i would have. If I am fortunate to not need some of thethings in that bill, I am not that disgusting as to say i don't want my taxes going towards that. I am not old, i recognize however old people might need hearing aid so they can communicate with their grandson. I don't have a kid, i recognize however that some of my coworkers can't afford private daycare and they can't ask their 1000km away parents to babysit

"You would throw it all away and put on a brown shirt and get in line? You would not....."
Wtf are you rambling on about now? Isn't it the (now) 1.5 trillion bill?

@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
Oh, you think we don't know about the conflict of interest of Manchin? Did you think also we would ignore that? What I am waiting for is 22 when we beat your sorry ass at the voting booth.

it's tricky. Some will probably be unhappy that the democrats couldn't bully manchin into being a half decent human. Some will probably stay home.

Synema is most like gone. Nothing can save her now.

@averagejoe1 said
Whatever. Go wild.
Why would you think I don't love my neighbor. Surely you can imagine that I am charitable, for many many reasons. Or, you can think I am not,.... that won't go anywhere, anyway . I think you the marxist, you think I don't love my neighbor. We're even.
When you say love my neighbor, I have a feeling that you mean support my neighbor? Naa, ...[text shortened]... ho wouldn't? But if he has chosen to need support, made some bad choices he many have some problems.

"Why would you think I don't love my neighbor. "
Everything you say here.

"Surely you can imagine that I am charitable, for many many reasons. "
Nope. Not even a little bit.

"When you say love my neighbor, I have a feeling that you mean support my neighbor? Naa, don't do that."
That's why i say you're not a christian, you're a pharisee.

"would if he were in a wheelchair, of course."
I don't remember where Jesus said that love is confitional.

"But if he has chosen to need support, made some bad choices he many have some problems."
you as a neighbor for example. After Jesus said "if you have two shirts give one to someone who has none" he didn't add "unless you think he is lazy or a marxist or not a Christian or voted for democrats, you know what best just keep that extra shirt he would probably lose it, he is a loser anyway if he couldn't get a shirt on his own"

@zahlanzi said
"Why would you think I don't love my neighbor. "
Everything you say here.

"Surely you can imagine that I am charitable, for many many reasons. "
Nope. Not even a little bit.

"When you say love my neighbor, I have a feeling that you mean support my neighbor? Naa, don't do that."
That's why i say you're not a christian, you're a pharisee.

"would if he were in a ...[text shortened]... t extra shirt he would probably lose it, he is a loser anyway if he couldn't get a shirt on his own"

Well,,the first three lines are not answerable, unforutnately, and the ad hominem doesn't help. I guess I would have to show you my CV, but it would make you like me less!!!!
As to an infirmed person in a wheelchair, or the other 40M destitute, I often say that they should be cared for. So, that's all I have to say about that.
As to what Jesus said, he also said that a baby, or a 90 year old,. that is unbaptized may not enter the kingdom of heaven. We are all SO confused. Like you.
You might want to take that over to the Religion forum? And tell the Muslims....no heaven for you!!

@AverageJoe
Again, you misinterpret 'Loser'. A fellow in a wheelchair cannot provide for himself, or would find it difficult. He is not a loser, but a guy who Can provide for himself, but does not? A loser.
I couldn't explain it more clearly. I am sure you see it now. Whew! Why do I get the feeling that you don't like any of my answers?

@averagejoe1 said
Well,,the first three lines are not answerable, unforutnately, and the ad hominem doesn't help. I guess I would have to show you my CV, but it would make you like me less!!!!
As to an infirmed person in a wheelchair, or the other 40M destitute, I often say that they should be cared for. So, that's all I have to say about that.
As to what Jesus said, he also said th ...[text shortened]... You might want to take that over to the Religion forum? And tell the Muslims....no heaven for you!!

"Well,,the first three lines are not answerable, unforutnately, and the ad hominem doesn't help. "
they are not ad hominems. Would you fukin learn what it means already. This time they're not even insults. One is me answering a question about my opinion of you, one is me saying i don't believe you, and one is me reacting to a statement of yours that directly contradicts jesus' teachings. Like marxism you use ad hominem to describe everything you didn't like because it sounds smart.

"As to what Jesus said, he also said that a baby, or a 90 year old,. that is unbaptized may not enter the kingdom of heaven. We are all SO confused. Like you. "
sooo, you use that as an excuse to not follow the rest of his teachings? but you still call yourself a christian?