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@no1marauder saidAs there were other incidents of arson that were taking place, it may seem believable to some people that she could have been participating in a protest,tried to set something on fire, and then burned herself, and later decided to come up with a less embarrassing story for her injuries.
Because there's an ongoing investigation?
The local media did release Bernstein's call to the police a few days ago: https://www.nbc15.com/2020/07/09/call-to-dispatchers-details-hate-crime-against-biracial-woman-whose-face-was-set-on-fire/
I assume you're still working under your theory that she set her own face on fire just to embarrass white folks.
@philokalia saidWell, it's good to see right wingers have a new name to use every time a black person is a victim of a hate crime to imply that they are all just liars.
As there were other incidents of arson that were taking place, it may seem believable to some people that she could have been participating in a protest,tried to set something on fire, and then burned herself, and later decided to come up with a less embarrassing story for her injuries.
After all, hate hoaxes are quite common, with the recent example of Jussie S ...[text shortened]... al.
It seems a bit far fetched but I don't know.
What a shame it would be if she were lying.
@no1marauder saidOh, is there an argument to be made that Jussie Smollett is actually a victim?
Well, it's good to see right wingers have a new name to use every time a black person is a victim of a hate crime to imply that they are all just liars.
Tawana Brawley for a few decades, now Jussie Smollett. It never really ends; extremist whites just will not give blacks, even with second and third degree burns on their face, anything but suspicion. I'm sure these pos ...[text shortened]... neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds if there wasn't video of it (maybe they don't believe it anyway).
@no1marauder saidThere have been so many hate crimes that have turned out to be hoaxes, if one does not immediately at least suspect that this is a hoax, then they're not even living in reality.
Well, it's good to see right wingers have a new name to use every time a black person is a victim of a hate crime to imply that they are all just liars.
Tawana Brawley for a few decades, now Jussie Smollett. It never really ends; extremist whites just will not give blacks, even with second and third degree burns on their face, anything but suspicion. I'm sure these pos ...[text shortened]... neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds if there wasn't video of it (maybe they don't believe it anyway).
@philokalia saidI never made such an argument.
Oh, is there an argument to be made that Jussie Smollett is actually a victim?
Please, present it to me. ^^
@techsouth saidReally? That is the right wing story, isn't it - those blacks just can't be trusted.
There have been so many hate crimes that have turned out to be hoaxes, if one does not immediately at least suspect that this is a hoax, then they're not even living in reality.
@no1marauder saidOK, I see - so you recognize that hate hoaxes do exist.
I never made such an argument.
Please try reading my post this time.
@no1marauder saidThe hoaxes are done by all sorts of people.
Really? That is the right wing story, isn't it - those blacks just can't be trusted.
@philokalia saidOn rare occasions, they can.
OK, I see - so you recognize that hate hoaxes do exist.
I'm sorry, I was confused.
@no1marauder saidThis is not a common assault by any stretch of the imagination -- it's a pretty outstanding and unusual story.
On rare occasions, they can.
However, hoaxes can exist as to reports of any crime. Why is it that right wingers are immediately suspicious of a crime perpetrated by whites against blacks but not of a standard robbery or assault?
This is the third thread Dood has started over this case claiming it is a hoax even though as of yet there is absolutely no evidence to sup ...[text shortened]... y. Shouldn't we wait until the police finish their investigation before declaring this woman a liar?
@no1marauder saidSlightly of track but "what the", "biracial". Are we just kidding ourselves, making up names, lables just for the fun of it. Is the a "new" minority.
Because there's an ongoing investigation?
The local media did release Bernstein's call to the police a few days ago: https://www.nbc15.com/2020/07/09/call-to-dispatchers-details-hate-crime-against-biracial-woman-whose-face-was-set-on-fire/
I assume you're still working under your theory that she set her own face on fire just to embarrass white folks.
@philokalia saidYou miss the point.
Oh, is there an argument to be made that Jussie Smollett is actually a victim?
Please, present it to me. ^^
@shavixmir saidThere have been dozens & dozens & dozens of instances of fake hate crimes, sometimes also involving violence and injuries (like the Winnipeg story I posted above).
You miss the point.
Somebody did survive a parachute jump when his chute didn’t open.
This doesn’t mean the correct conclusion is that parachutes are a left-wing conspiracy denying you the freedom to fly like a bird.
Just like, because a few incidents fit your agenda, doesn’t make your agenda right or delegitimize the greater case which is being made.