05 Nov 08
Originally posted by BadwaterPeople disliking Beethoven's 9th, or any Beethoven for that matter, just don't have any idea what they're talking about.
I used to really dislike Beethoven's 9th symphony, until Gerard Schwartz of the Seattle Symphony explained what was going on and I had an appreciation of it that I didn't have before. It's still not my favorite but it's not the drivel that it was before.
Same with Citizen Kane - I don't think anyone can appreciate the movie without knowing about William ...[text shortened]... lot of levels. Best movie ever? Probably not on my list but it would be in the top 5 or 10.
Good example, though.
07 Nov 08
Originally posted by davanielAre you genuinely suggesting that the Choral Fantasy, The Creatures of Prometheus, and King
People disliking Beethoven's 9th, or any Beethoven for that matter, just don't have any idea what they're talking about.
Wellington's Victory are great pieces of music?
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13 Nov 08
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Originally posted by WheelyAre you nuts! LOTR has been officially voted the greatest book of the 20th century, and quite rightly so imo. Yes, it does have lenghty descriptions, but the point is that they are so beautifully written that oftentimes you find yourself sitting open mouthed and welling up, so that you have to stop, go back and read the last paragraph again in order to appreciate once more the astounding beauty of what you just read, even if it's just "a bit of path" that he's describing. The whole thing is just gorgeous and totally captivating.
I also found Lord of the Rings unbelievably tedious too but I guess that´s OK because the book is pretty dull and is only navigable by skimming over the fifty page descriptions of a bit of pathway.
13 Nov 08
Originally posted by PalynkaYes, well I can see that you're using langauge in a way that the central character in the film would, but how is that funny? This is what I just don't get. People who like the movie probably laughed out loud when they read what you wrote, but I just can't see what's so funny.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
13 Nov 08
Originally posted by BeltaineIt's a direct quote from the film. 🙂
Yes, well I can see that you're using langauge in a way that the central character in the film would, but how is that funny? This is what I just don't get. People who like the movie probably laughed out loud when they read what you wrote, but I just can't see what's so funny.
I'm a big fan of the film. The direction is superb, the acting is amazing by pretty much everyone and the script (for me) is full of quirky characters and funny situations. I guess comedy value is very subjective so if it's not your brand of fun, it's normal you don't like it.
13 Nov 08
Originally posted by BeltaineMaybe you don't get it cause you think LOTR is the best book of the 20th century... It aint...
Yes, well I can see that you're using langauge in a way that the central character in the film would, but how is that funny? This is what I just don't get. People who like the movie probably laughed out loud when they read what you wrote, but I just can't see what's so funny.
Best Fantasy series...maybe... and a Bloated warthog at that. I did like LOTR when I read it as a Teenager.. but there are many a good book out there to compare or beat Tolken on any given day.
15 Nov 08
Originally posted by BeltaineEh? Officially voted?...what nonsense is this?
Are you nuts! LOTR has been officially voted the greatest book of the 20th century, and quite rightly so imo. Yes, it does have lenghty descriptions, but the point is that they are so beautifully written that oftentimes you find yourself sitting open mouthed and welling up, so that you have to stop, go back and read the last paragraph again in order to appr ...[text shortened]... bit of path" that he's describing. The whole thing is just gorgeous and totally captivating.
If Tolkien wanted to describe a tree he'd spend 5 or 6 pages doing it, why would any sane person want to read a 5 page description of a bleedn tree?...surely what happens to people is more interesting! people read books because they like to know what happens to characters and this becomes difficult when any time the books actually gets interesting it's ruined with endless descriptions of mountains, rivers, caves and trees!
16 Nov 08
Originally posted by JamesqtThose are all great books, in particular David Gemell's books and Sephen Kings Dark Tower series, but how many of the books you quoted would never have existed without LOTR paving the way? I point to the Shannara books and The Wheel of Time books in particular which (although enjoyable) are clear Tolkien ripoffs and as such are a pale shadow in comparison. LOTR is and will remain the original and the greatest book of the fantasy genre for all time.
The Elfstones of Shannara
The Wheel of Tine series
Harry Potter series
David Gemill's Legend
Dark Tower series
A song of Ice and fire
Dark Materials trillogy
16 Nov 08
Originally posted by JamesqtYour gross exaggeration astounds me.
If Tolkien wanted to describe a tree he'd spend 5 or 6 pages doing it, why would any sane person want to read a 5 page description of a bleedn tree?...surely what happens to people is more interesting! people read books because they like to know what happens to characters and this becomes difficult when any time the books actually gets interesting it's ruined with endless descriptions of mountains, rivers, caves and trees!