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ka
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So it has come back to this again ....

Zen is seen as the refinement of Buddhist "thought".
It was born with the Buddha in India, travelled via China, and was sharpened into a hammer in Japan.
Or so it is simplified,by some like me, however: there is nothing more complex.

Ideas?

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
So it has come back to this again ....

Zen is seen as the refinement of Buddhist "thought".
It was born with the Buddha in India, travelled via China, and was sharpened into a hammer in Japan.
Or so it is simplified,by some like me, however: there is nothing more complex.

Ideas?
Thank God there's nothing "complex" about how to get into eternity.

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Originally posted by josephw
Thank God there's nothing "complex" about how to get into eternity.
It is said that with a God a thousand years is as only one day.

With you "one year" is as only one month 😉

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
Ideas?
Everyone thinks that they either have 'the refinement' of their particular religion or 'the unadulterated original'.

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Originally posted by divegeester
It is said that with a God a thousand years is as only one day.

With you "one year" is as only one month 😉
Has it been that long? 🙂

I haven't gone anywhere, and I've kept up with the reading. I guess I just got bored with myself! After all, I've been wrangling with you guys for ten years now. How am I supposed to simply quit a bad habit overnight? 😉

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Originally posted by josephw
Thank God there's nothing "complex" about how to get into eternity.
You just have to die with JC in your heart, or some version of this?

Why do you always have to wait for death in Cristianity?

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Originally posted by twhitehead
Everyone thinks that they either have 'the refinement' of their particular religion or 'the unadulterated original'.
Agrreed.

I have refined my practice but as to understanding this as a "living truth", you either do or you don't. And I don't. Not yet anyway.

(btw I did start this thread after my toing and froing with you on the other thread. Seeing if that which I hold to be true to be nothing but an elaborate hoax would ,possibly, shake my world. So I bring it back here and possibly I will find something I have missed. )

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
So it has come back to this again ....

Zen is seen as the refinement of Buddhist "thought".
It was born with the Buddha in India, travelled via China, and was sharpened into a hammer in Japan.
Or so it is simplified,by some like me, however: there is nothing more complex.

Ideas?
mind and senses purified
free from desire

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Originally posted by josephw
Has it been that long? 🙂

I haven't gone anywhere, and I've kept up with the reading. I guess I just got bored with myself! After all, I've been wrangling with you guys for ten years now. How am I supposed to simply quit a bad habit overnight? 😉
About a month ago you announced in the GF that you were leaving for what would be about a year.

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Originally posted by divegeester
About a month ago you announced in the GF that you were leaving for what would be about a year.
Well, it's good to see you've been paying attention? 😉

Are you disappointed? Do you feel I'm obligated, or am I free to change my mind? 🙂

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
You just have to die with JC in your heart, or some version of this?

Why do you always have to wait for death in Cristianity?
"You just have to die with JC in your heart, or some version of this?"

No. You have to "live with JC in your heart".

"Why do you always have to wait for death in Christianity?"

Where did you get that idea? Eternal life is a gift. Once received one never dies.

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Originally posted by josephw
Well, it's good to see you've been paying attention? 😉

Are you disappointed? Do you feel I'm obligated, or am I free to change my mind? 🙂
As in chess, it is wise to watch your opponents moves. 😛

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Originally posted by josephw
Are you disappointed? Do you feel I'm obligated, or am I free to change my mind? 🙂
No I am pleased you changed your mind and are back, I think the diversity of posting on these boards is enriched by the spectrum of styles and attitudes of the people contributing. Without this dynamic these forums would be dead.

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Originally posted by karoly aczel to josephw
Why do you always have to wait for death in Cristianity?
Christians just tell themselves that they will never die. Problem solved. 😉

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Originally posted by divegeester
As in chess, it is wise to watch your opponents moves. 😛
In chess one has an opponent. I prefer to look on the bright side in debate and refer to the other as a partner in debate, both committed to a resolution that shines the light on the truth. 🙂

But looking at your game rating I think you better pay closer attention to your own moves. 😉