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@sonship said
@divegeester
Yes.

That is I am concerned about hearing the voice of God's Spirit.
If God speaks to me through you I want to hear it.

I ask you if you have ever considered that it is YOU who may have a problem and you answer “yes”

Gosh that’s momentarily positive…but hold on here comes Sonship’s “problem”….

”That is I am concerned about hearing the voice of God's Spirit. If God speaks to me through you I want to hear it.

And there is is, the honest answer to my question would have been “No divegeester, I have NEVER for one moment considered that it might be me who has the problem”

@sonship said

You alienate everyone.

When that accusation comes my way I sometimes consider Isaiah starting that csignificant 53rd chapter with his question.

"Who has believed our report ? " (Isa. 53:1)

How often do you hear!? Lots I imagine.

Once again you compare yourself to a key biblical character, at least it’s not Jesus this time.

Have you any idea how pompous and prideful you sound?

@sonship said

Have you ever considered that YOU might be the problem?

Yes I have. Many times.

But as you said “When that accusation comes my way …”

You hide from it by pretending it’s just persecution and you are just like an OT character being persecuted.

Right.

@divegeester


LOL !

Yea, about a decade of posting here and much with the same old critics indicates "HIDING" from them.

How about you not "hide" and answer my question as I replied to yours.

Yes I have. Many times.

Now let me ask you a question in turn. Is it that you have an innate suspicion against influential Christians? I mean if someone has spoken some things which many people have benefitted from, is that an automatic signal to you that you should be suspicious ?

Ie. "This Christian has been regarded as worth emulating and serious consideration should be given to his words and life. Automatically, there surely is cultic devotion going on here."

Could that suspicion be a reflection of your own individualism and reluctance break from your maverick disposition to go it on your own?

You were eager to answer. Right? You just needed a little time?

@sonship said
@divegeester
LOL !

Laugh all you want it’s true, you believe that the push back and criticism you get in here is a forum of persecution.

All cult members think like this; the JWs did it all the time.

@divegeester

You must be in a evil cult.
They have secretive meetings and you never want anyone to know where you
meet.

Here's where I gather these days with other believers.

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Where do you gather with others of your belief Divegeester?

Is it a big SECRET?

What are you hiding ?
Is it a cult ?

Ashamed to tell anyone ??

@sonship said
Where do you gather with others of your belief Divegeester?

Is it a big SECRET?

What are you hiding ?
Is it a cult ?

Ashamed to tell anyone ??

Where I go or don’t go is none of your business.

@sonship said
@divegeester

You must be in a evil cult.
They have secretive meetings and you never want anyone to know where you meet.

I said no such thing, you’re lying.

@divegeester said
Where I go or don’t go is none of your business.

Sounds like you're in a secretive cult.

@sonship said
Sounds like you're in a secretive cult.

Because I won’t tell you private offline information?

@divegeester

If you're ashamed or don't want anyone to check on your leaders and your statement of faith, you have that right.

So for years now you scrutinize others big time, gathering up gossip, but protect your own cult like group and its personalities.

That's how I take it.

And I would say that you have been a ringleader to get others like Rajk999 and Ghost to follow your methodology, Others also not being able to point out biblical errors I wrote follow your way of distracting from biblical truth to accusations of a cult of personality.

Then the alleged scandalous cult of personality becomes the only point of every thread I participate in. I think other posters have said -

"Hey, this works. This the way to derail sonship. Always throw up him being in a cult of personality."