@fmfsaid If it's somehow morally coherent to you personally, shouldn't you be able to establish its moral coherence to everyone if you believe it should be everybody's single "true north"?
People suppress the truth, it is easier to live in darkness they can do whatever they
want they love it that way. Thank you for your opinion.
@kellyjaysaid People suppress the truth, it is easier to live in darkness they can do whatever they
want they love it that way.
Although you may sincerely believe that your beliefs pertain to something that creates some sort of jeopardy or dilemma for me, of course they don't, no matter how many times you refer to them as "the truth".
The same goes for my beliefs: they don't create any kind of farfetched jeopardy or dilemma for you.
Ok so since becoming a Christian you have adopted a new direction to your moral compass which now permits the atrocity of burning people alive for eternity whereas prior to being a Christian you wouldn’t have permitted it.
And in doing so you have demonstrated the premise in my OP and taken that step along the path to religious extremist thinking.
@fmfsaid Although you may sincerely believe that your beliefs pertain to something that creates some sort of jeopardy or dilemma for me, of course they don't, no matter how many times you refer to them as "the truth".
The same goes for my beliefs: they don't create any kind of farfetched jeopardy or dilemma for you.
@divegeestersaid Ok so since becoming a Christian you have adopted a new direction to your moral compass which now permits the atrocity of burning people alive for eternity whereas prior to being a Christian you wouldn’t have permitted it.
And in doing so you have demonstrated the premise in my OP and taken that step along the path to religious extremist thinking.
I have maintained God is the judge and righteousness and justice as well as forgiveness comes from Him, not me. You think your way is more righteous than God, take it up with Him.
@kellyjaysaid I have maintained God is the judge and righteousness and justice as well as forgiveness comes from Him, not me. You think your way is more righteous than God, take it up with Him.
Nevertheless, your moral compass has moved from indicating to you that burning people alive for not accepting your personal religious beliefs NOT morally right, to accepting that burning people alive for rejecting your religious beliefs IS acceptable.
And so you have confined the premise in my OP.
What’s next for you I wonder.
@divegeestersaid Nevertheless, your moral compass has moved from indicating to you that burning people alive for not accepting your personal religious beliefs NOT morally right, to accepting that burning people alive for rejecting your religious beliefs IS acceptable.
And so you have confined the premise in my OP.
What’s next for you I wonder.
You think you can alter reality by what you like and find acceptable? Do you have the insight into righteousness and evil that God does? Nothing of evil will go forward from this temporary world into the eternal, you will stand before the one who laid down His life for us, His judgment not mine will matter.
@fmfsaid Our moral codes come from our parents, families, neighbours, workplaces, places of worship, schools and colleges, from our culture, from history and literature, and from the system of laws under which we live.
Our moral compasses synthesize all this and then interact with our personal unique narratives in order to make moral evaluations and decisions about our actions.
If ...[text shortened]... e around them can use their moral compasses to evaluate that person's actions and decide what to do.
This looks correct to me.
Now, If I can just get my mental compass to synthesize the last 8 months of tactics exercises I completed, I can begin to dig out the sinkhole of mediocrity. 😲
@kellyjaysaid You think you can alter reality by what you like and find acceptable? Do you have the insight into righteousness and evil that God does? Nothing of evil will go forward from this temporary world into the eternal, you will stand before the one who laid down His life for us, His judgment not mine will matter.
The OP is about how the adoption of certain religious beliefs can corrupt a person’s moral compass.
Your moral compass has moved from indicating to you that burning people alive for not accepting your personal religious beliefs NOT morally right, to accepting that burning people alive for rejecting your religious beliefs IS acceptable.
@divegeestersaid The OP is about how the adoption of certain religious beliefs can corrupt a person’s moral compass.
Your moral compass has moved from indicating to you that burning people alive for not accepting your personal religious beliefs NOT morally right, to accepting that burning people alive for rejecting your religious beliefs IS acceptable.
And so you have confirmed the premise in my OP.
I have never said people will burn alive for anything I believe or said, you should
at least stick to the things I have said, to do otherwise is well not truthful.
@kellyjaysaid I have never said people will burn alive for anything I believe or said, you should
at least stick to the things I have said, to do otherwise is well not truthful.
If you are distancing yourself from, or disavowing, the theology of eternal torture in burning flames, then it is to be welcomed: it is a depraved and morally incoherent belief. If your mind has been changed, then good for you.
It's noteworthy, though, that you never once questioned the ideology when sonship [a.k.a. jaywill] trotted it out here for the better part of two decades. Not ONCE did you have sufficient courage-of-your-convictions to debate or discuss it with him here on this debate and discussion forum.
15 Sep '22 09:39
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