@philokalia saidBut your beliefs and your perceptions and your certainties about what has or has not been "revealed" are just as prone to being the product a "tiny little human brain at work not knowing anything larger then a shoebox can hold" as my beliefs and perceptions and certainties about what has or has not been "revealed" are.
He and I believe that there is an element of revealed truth at play, that's why.
Which is also why we must be dependant on the revealed truth.
Your apparent endorsement of the 'tiny little human brain at work not knowing anything larger then a shoebox can hold' style of "argument" reflects poorly on you.
@philokalia saidAttributing a "tiny little human brain at work not knowing anything larger then a shoebox can hold" to people who believe different things from you [or galveston75] does not strengthen or substantiate your assertions about "the revealed truth".
Which is also why we must be dependant on the revealed truth.
22 Jul 19
@fmf saidOh, was he really directing that at you? I imagine you'd roll with the punches since you don't mind trading insults and this is the internet, right?
Attributing a "tiny little human brain at work not knowing anything larger then a shoebox can hold" to people who believe different things from you [or galveston75] does not strengthen or substantiate your assertions about "the revealed truth".
But it is pretty common for Christians to say that we are not intelligent enough to understand the universe..
St. Augustine famously did that.
22 Jul 19
@fmf saidSure you can reduce it to that argument that we fail to actually receive the word correctly or we hallucinated it or were duped, but we have faith we aren't and everything becomes debatable like that.
But your beliefs and your perceptions and your certainties about what has or has not been "revealed" are just as prone to being the product a "tiny little human brain at work not knowing anything larger then a shoebox can hold" as my beliefs and perceptions and certainties about what has or has not been "revealed" are.
Your apparent endorsement of the 'tiny little human brain ...[text shortened]... ork not knowing anything larger then a shoebox can hold' style of "argument" reflects poorly on you.
An argument can be made against anything.
It doesn't mean it's a good argument, though
22 Jul 19
@galveston75 saidSurely these “weeds in the road” could be the people whom you are Robbie used to claim could be entering the kingdom by another route other than being a member of the JW organisation?
I've heard just about anything that could be said when it comes to one not wanting to be involved with the JW's. I've had a couple family members that were once active JW's and personal friends that I grew up with who used to be active JW's.
So not too many reasons out there that I've not heard of.
The bible uses the examples of weeds along a road that spring up but ...[text shortened]... o worship him.
But as the earth wide organization of JW's goes, we are doing more then fine.......
Is your position now that a person DOES have to be a member of the Jehovah’s Witness church/organisation in order to be eligible for eternal life?
22 Jul 19
@philokalia saidSuch as your assertion that God does not cast people into the lake of fire, they in fact cast themselves in?
Yet, in terms of Christianity, we must be weary about some of the interpretations that are offered which are self-serving and cherry-picked.
22 Jul 19
@divegeester saidThe thread is about confusion about the Bible.
Surely these “weeds in the road” could be the people whom you are Robbie used to claim could be entering the kingdom by another route other than being a member of the JW organisation?
Is your position now that a person DOES have to be a member of the Jehovah’s Witness church/organisation in order to be eligible for eternal life?
But here is Dive swooping in to make it about hell.
Beautiful.
22 Jul 19
@galveston75 saidWhat an amazing argument! People disagree with YOU and they are disagreeing with “Jehovah” and have “tiny brains”.
All your comments are against Jehovah without you seeming to understand that. A tiny little humans brain at work not knowing anything larger then a shoe box can hold.
Typical cultish mindset.
22 Jul 19
@philokalia saidI’m responding directly, with a quote, to something the thread author said.
The thread is about confusion about the Bible.
But here is Dive swooping in to make it about hell.
Beautiful.
22 Jul 19
@philokalia saidIt was seemingly the only "argument" he was offering in reply to my post and with regard to the dissent of committed Christians who are ex-JWs. He has dismissed dozens and dozens of posts by countless contributors here with the same "argument" over the years.
Oh, was he really directing that at you?
22 Jul 19
@philokalia saidWhat "similar level of discussion" are you talking about now? Similar to what?
Surely you wouldn't be upset if other people engage in a similar level of discussion. It is the internet after all
22 Jul 19
@philokalia saidIt's a very weak "argument" for bolstering one's beliefs and discounting someone else's. I'd say it is something offered instead of a genuine "argument". Am I "not intelligent enough to understand" why I ought to be a JW?
But it is pretty common for Christians to say that we are not intelligent enough to understand the universe..