15 Mar 11
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Originally posted by stokerNo it was before, furthermore the scriptures state quite clearly that they had Gods blessing,
was not that after they were cast out of the garden, or when they were getting cast out god still spoke to them. telling them to go out and multiply giving man the burden ot heavy labour and the woman child birth.
(Genesis 1:27-28) . . .And God proceeded to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them. Further, God blessed them and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth.”
16 Mar 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobiei will check it out soon
No it was before, furthermore the scriptures state quite clearly that they had Gods blessing,
(Genesis 1:27-28) . . .And God proceeded to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them. Further, [b]God blessed them and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it ...[text shortened]... nd the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth.”[/b]
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16 Mar 11
Originally posted by SeitseIt would seem one would have to differentiate between Paradise in the physical sense and Paradise in the spiritual sense. Insofar as Christianity is concerned, I find no evidence that Jesus was referring to the temporal where Paradise is concerned.
I mean, in general. Isn't it the place where we are all
supposed to be free from the burdens of physical life?
The way I see it, any self-respecting religion based on
the improvement of the fleshy us into a higher level
of spirituality, should "offer" a paradise where those
ideals are materialized: brotherhood, lack of need,
higher knowledge, peace, h ...[text shortened]... mean... seriously. That does not sound like a "higher
version of a human being", does it?
17 Mar 11
Originally posted by rvsakhadeoI thought there was no concept of an eternal hell in Hiduism, only purgatory.
More to the point will be the fact that all Organised Religions have spoken about Heaven and Hell ! Hindu Religious creed is that all the people who have earned Merit on balance by doing Good Deeds go to heaven and enjoy the company of Gods,enjoy all sorts of pleasures and so on as rewards. Bad people who have done Bad Deeds on balance go to hell where t ...[text shortened]... cles of Life and Death.
We are told that we must escape this cyclic journey by yielding to God.
While this may seem like a really, really long time, it surely is not forever.
It would not make sense. You would get used to the punishment if it was eternal and therefore negate spiritual evolution, which says that all "souls" eventually reach Nirvana.
Then again , if one believes in something strongly enough....
17 Mar 11
Originally posted by SeitseWe will evolve to keep up with Mother Earth evolving, for She has decided to do so.
In any case, it is only human to aspire to a
higher level of spirituality, to find answers,
to "see it all clear".
Not to fondle teens and bugger boys while
boozing and gagging on fruit... or is it?
We will move from a diet of burgers and fries to a diet of pure light
17 Mar 11
Originally posted by BadwaterAgreed.
It would seem one would have to differentiate between Paradise in the physical sense and Paradise in the spiritual sense. Insofar as Christianity is concerned, I find no evidence that Jesus was referring to the temporal where Paradise is concerned.
Hi Badwater, hope you been keeping well🙂
18 Mar 11
Originally posted by karoly aczelWell,I did say that the in the Hindu Religious Creed,you have to face punishment for being a person who has done bad deeds in the balance and that the Soul gets reborn into another life after the punishment is over. In Hindu Creed, Hell is not for ever nor is Heaven for ever.
I thought there was no concept of an eternal hell in Hiduism, only purgatory.
While this may seem like a really, really long time, it surely is not forever.
It would not make sense. You would get used to the punishment if it was eternal and therefore negate spiritual evolution, which says that all "souls" eventually reach Nirvana.
Then again , if one believes in something strongly enough....
But you may note that this is a creed.In the loosely structured Hinduism,the higher level thinkers have nothing to say about heaven/hell but they simply say that you get born and reborn and suffer/enjoy as per your net bad/good Karma balance. They say we must escape from this cycle of birth and rebirth to achieve eternal piece.
18 Mar 11
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Originally posted by Seitsehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs
In any case, it is only human to aspire to a
higher level of spirituality, to find answers,
to "see it all clear".
Not to fondle teens and bugger boys while
boozing and gagging on fruit... or is it?
Where does the "buggering boys" come from? That's not something Islam is officially in favor of from what I understand.
18 Mar 11
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Originally posted by rvsakhadeoYes but would not eternal peace be synonomous with "heaven"?
Well,I did say that the in the Hindu Religious Creed,you have to face punishment for being a person who has done bad deeds in the balance and that the Soul gets reborn into another life after the punishment is over. In Hindu Creed, Hell is not for ever nor is Heaven for ever.
But you may note that this is a creed.In the loosely structured Hinduism,the hi ...[text shortened]... balance. They say we must escape from this cycle of birth and rebirth to achieve eternal piece.
Surely time and space and the second law of thermodynamics do not apply in higher dimensions.
