@fmf said
Make of it what you will.

Ok 👍

@kellyjay said
This, like many other things that do not depend on us accepting or rejecting them,
reality is exactly what it is, regardless of our opinions about it.

Your opinion that what you believe is true/reality/accurate is also just your opinion. Yes, you believe your religious beliefs make you immortal. I get it. You claim that believing this is based on "logic" and "evidence". I get it. You repeat over and over and over again that me not believing the same things as you doesn't alter the fact that they [your opinions] are supposedly "the truth". Good for you.

@savedbygrace said
Ok 👍

You talking about poor people being more likely to be put to death than rich people adds exactly what to the discussion of the "righteousness" of capital punishment?

@fmf said
You talking about poor people being more likely to be put to death than rich people adds exactly what to the discussion of the "righteousness" of capital punishment?

I was addressing a post of yours, and as such, my post was completely relevant and, if I do say so myself, succinct and bang-on target.

@savedbygrace said
I was addressing a post of yours, and as such, my post was completely relevant and, if I do say so myself, succinct and bang-on target.

The discussion is about the supposed "righteousness" of capital punishment. Quibbling the exact nature of the victimization caused by systematic prejudice / institutionalized inequality is a red herring. This is a forum made up of conversational contexts.

@fmf said
The discussion is about the supposed "righteousness" of capital punishment. Quibbling the exact nature of the victimization caused by systematic prejudice / institutionalized inequality is a red herring. This is a forum made up of conversational contexts.

Ok 👍

@fmf said
Your opinion that what you believe is true/reality/accurate is also just your opinion. Yes, you believe your religious beliefs make you immortal. I get it. You claim that believing this is based on "logic" and "evidence". I get it. You repeat over and over and over again that me not believing the same things as you doesn't alter the fact that they [your opinions] are supposedly "the truth". Good for you.

Limiting truth to opinions simply dilutes any truth to nothing but what we make
of it between our ears.

@kellyjay said
Limiting truth to opinions simply dilutes any truth to nothing but what we make
of it between our ears.

All you or I have with regard to the "truth" in these matters is what the stuff between our ears comes up with, i.e. opinions, "limited" as they may be.

@fmf said
All you or I have with regard to the "truth" in these matters is what the stuff between our ears comes up with, i.e. opinions, "limited" as they may be.

We live in reality, and we can have opinions about it, but it doesn't change because
of those opinions. If all your truth is just the stuff between your ears, you live in a
very little world.

@kellyjay said
If all your truth is just the stuff between your ears, you live in a
very little world.

All our opinions about "the truth" are produced by the stuff between our ears. This has absolutely no impact on the size of the world we both live in.

@kellyjay said
Limiting truth to opinions simply dilutes any truth to nothing but what we make
of it between our ears.

No one is "limiting truth"; we are both merely sharing our perspectives on what it is.

@fmf said
No one is "limiting truth"; we are both merely sharing our perspectives on what it is.

Pontius Pilate asked that question of Jesus Christ. Jesus’ statement on the question of what is truth appeared in John 14:6

@savedbygrace said
Pontius Pilate asked that question of Jesus Christ. Jesus’ statement on the question of what is truth appeared in John 14:6

Be that as it may, but I am not religious.

@fmf said
Be that as it may, but I am not religious.

Whether you’re religious or not has no bearing on the question. The truth of something does not depend on anyone’s belief in it.

@savedbygrace said
Whether you’re religious or not has no bearing on the question. The truth of something does not depend on anyone’s belief in it.

I am not religious and I don't believe that the scripture from your religion sheds light on "the truth" other than it states a subjective perspective shared by adherents of your religion.