Originally posted by @dj2beckerI am not going to repeat it for exactly the reasons I have stated on the previous page ~ not to mention numerous times before. Are you pretending not to have read them? Why invent a reason of your own for my unwillingness to play along? On the previous page, mind you. Literally a matter of minutes ago.
I'm sure you would have repeated it if was worth repeating and if you had in fact talked about it in the first place.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI don't need to reread it. My question springs directly from the what you said. This is how conversations are supposed to work. Did you keep your head down and pretend to go along with the cult's treatment of its victims "over a period of a few years" before leaving?
No that's not what I said. Reread what I wrote.
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Originally posted by @fmfSuit yourself. I still maintain if it is worth repeating you would.
I am not going to repeat it for exactly the reasons I have stated on the previous page ~ not to mention numerous times before. Are you pretending not to have read them? Why invent a reason of your own for my unwillingness to play along? On the previous page, mind you. Literally a matter of minutes ago.
02 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerIt doesn't need to be repeated. You already know what I said [and what I believe] about the meaning and purpose that belief in Christ gives Christians. I've talked about it many times. We have talked about it at least several times. I have no need to repeat it. You'd only ask me about it again. And again.
Suit yourself. I still maintain if it is worth repeating you would.
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Originally posted by @fmfI have talked about this many times, including in posts that I addressed to you and which you presumably read. I am not interested in this game you play where you ask about the same things over and over again as if you hadn't read what I'd written previously.
I don't need to reread it. My question springs directly from the what you said. This is how conversations are supposed to work. Did you keep your head down and pretend to go along with the cult's treatment of its victims "over a period of a few years" before leaving?
See anyone can play your game.
02 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerYou see, from my point of view, it's interesting ~ and not a little amusing ~ to be mocked in public as being a robot, or braindead, or comatose, or having no coherent moral code, by a beyond-parody, inflexible, peculiarly unoriginal, doctrinaire cult victim ~ a victimhood that persisted long into your adult years, mind you ~ who has enormous difficulty in participating in genuine conversations with [or even merely listening to] people who have different beliefs or who've had different experiences.
I have talked about this many times, including in posts that I addressed to you and which you presumably read. I am not interested in this game you play where you ask about the same things over and over again as if you hadn't read what I'd written previously.
And now here you are, as unoriginal as ever, trying to pass off my genuine on-target complaint about your modus operandi, by copy pasting what I said and changing words, as if it actually applied to my attempts to converse with you this evening, when it doesn't. Kind of teenage, if you ask me. You couldn't even come up with your own words to fire back as I probed a new facet of the damage your cult life caused. You are a poor advert for your belief system, to put it mildly.
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02 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerYes I can.
Can you not remember a day where you committed your life to Jesus and decided to follow Him?
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03 Sep 17
Originally posted by @fmfWhatever you say Dr Phil.
You see, from my point of view, it's interesting ~ and not a little amusing ~ to be mocked in public as being a robot, or braindead, or comatose, or having no coherent moral code, by a beyond-parody, inflexible, peculiarly unoriginal, doctrinaire cult victim ~ a victimhood that persisted long into your adult years, mind you ~ who has enormous difficulty in part ...[text shortened]... he damage your cult life caused. You are a poor advert for your belief system, to put it mildly.
03 Sep 17
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI am not some kind of "Dr Phil" at all. I am just an ordinary adult who is able to see you for what you are and deliver a few home truths.
Whatever you say Dr Phil.
You have admitted that your personal development still places you, for all intents and purposes, in your teenage years because of the damage done to you for most of your life.
When you grow up a little and shake off the cultish influence you have admitted still dogs you, you will perhaps be able to see that there is nothing "Dr Phil"-like about calling you out for your behaviour.
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Originally posted by @dj2beckerI've said this before I know and don't mean to be derogatory about it but you don't know your Bible well enough dj2becker/Fetchmyjunk.
Was it your choice or were you forced?
I had no choice as the faith I was given was given by God. I also had no choice in seeking God. Scripture says...
“There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.”
Romans 3:11
And again:
"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them..."
John 6:44
Wether or not this truth applies to to FMF and his experience is not within my knowledge.
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03 Sep 17
Originally posted by @fmfBy 'home truths' you mean 'subjective opinions'?
I am not some kind of "Dr Phil" at all. I am just an ordinary adult who is able to see you for what you are and deliver a few home truths.
You have admitted that your personal development still places you, for all intents and purposes, in your teenage years because of the damage done to you for most of your life.
When you grow up a little and shake off ...[text shortened]... ps be able to see that there is nothing "Dr Phil"-like about calling you out for your behaviour.
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Originally posted by @divegeesterI still think we have a choice to either bow under the will of God or harden our hearts.
I've said this before I know and don't mean to be derogatory about it but you don't know your Bible well enough dj2becker/Fetchmyjunk.
I had no choice as the faith I was given was given by God. I also had no choice in seeking God. Scripture says...
[i]“There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands; there is no one who se ...[text shortened]... :44
Wether or not this truth applies to to FMF and his experience is not within my knowledge.
Hebrews 3:15 As it has been said: “Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts, as you did in the rebellion.”
Rev 3:20 Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.
Isaiah 55:6
Seek the LORD while he may be found; call on him while he is near.
James 4:7-8
Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you.
Maybe you don't know your Bible well enough. 😉
03 Sep 17
Originally posted by @divegeesterI finally got tired of the whining.
Oh you are interested alright. You have since posted a 6 inch rant in reply.
Forget? 😉
And what's the matter, did your nanosecond attention span prevent you from reading it all, as usual?