16 Mar 16
Originally posted by divegeesterWhat are you babbling about?
Your willingness to your conflate your political bias and your religious bias makes you appear as one of the dumbest posters here. Your last post here confirms this.
The Pope said Trump was going to hell for building a wall dingleberry.
16 Mar 16
Originally posted by Great King RatNow, now, are you calling the Pope crazy?
People saying other people will go to hell/eternal punishment for all kinds of things they happen to think are bad, are pretty crazy, don't you think?
Not only will you make Catholics unhappy, you might have left wingers who love the guy be unhappy as well.
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17 Mar 16
Originally posted by SuzianneThat America is full of voting idiots is not I question. GWB got two terms and he was possibly worse than Trump, certainly less intelligent and more of puppet. I won't be surprised if Trump gets in but I suspect his numptyness will be largely blocked by the houses. My point here is that Trump isn't the problem, American voters like whodey are.
Perhaps they should keep an eye on what's happening regardless. The POTUS creates ripples that affect people in other countries, the bigger the ripples, the bigger the effect. Someone like Trump could make life more difficult for a lot of people, and not just in the US.
17 Mar 16
Originally posted by whodeyNo, I wasn't specifically talking about the pope - although yes, he probably is a nutcase - I was talking about:
Now, now, are you calling the Pope crazy?
Not only will you make Catholics unhappy, you might have left wingers who love the guy be unhappy as well.
"People saying other people will go to hell/eternal punishment for all kinds of things they happen to think are bad".
Aren't you one of those people?
17 Mar 16
Originally posted by Great King RatWho am I, God?
No, I wasn't specifically talking about the pope - although yes, he probably is a nutcase - I was talking about:
"People saying other people will go to hell/eternal punishment for all kinds of things they happen to think are bad".
Aren't you one of those people?
17 Mar 16
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Originally posted by Great King Rat(CNN) — Thrusting himself into the combative 2016 presidential campaign, Pope Francis said Thursday that GOP front-runner Donald Trump "is not Christian" if he calls for the deportation of undocumented immigrants and pledges to build a wall between the United States and Mexico.
I dunno. Are you non-existent?
Since you bring up this pope incident quite often, can you quote what he said in relation to Trump's fart building a wall?
The Pope, who was traveling back to Rome from Mexico, where he urged the United States to address the "humanitarian crisis" on its southern border, did not tell American Catholics not to vote for Trump.
But Francis left little doubt where he stood on the polarizing issue of immigration reform.
"A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian. This is not the gospel," the Pope told journalists who asked his opinion on Trump's proposals to halt illegal immigration.
Maybe the Pope is angling for Hillary's VP.
17 Mar 16
Originally posted by whodeyAlright.
(CNN) — Thrusting himself into the combative 2016 presidential campaign, Pope Francis said Thursday that GOP front-runner Donald Trump "is not Christian" if he calls for the deportation of undocumented immigrants and pledges to build a wall between the United States and Mexico.
The Pope, who was traveling back to Rome from Mexico, where he urged the United ...[text shortened]... on Trump's proposals to halt illegal immigration.
Maybe the Pope is angling for Hillary's VP.
Now can you show where he said that Trump will go to hell?
17 Mar 16
Originally posted by whodey1, The Pope did not "thrust himself" into the campaign. Someone asked him a question, and he answered.
(CNN) — Thrusting himself into the combative 2016 presidential campaign, Pope Francis said Thursday that GOP front-runner Donald Trump "is not Christian" if he calls for the deportation of undocumented immigrants and pledges to build a wall between the United States and Mexico.
The Pope, who was traveling back to Rome from Mexico, where he urged the United ...[text shortened]... on Trump's proposals to halt illegal immigration.
Maybe the Pope is angling for Hillary's VP.
2. The Pope did not mention Trump by name.
3. The Pope was nevertheless right.
4. This was blown way out of proportion. This was not nearly as sensational as everyone made it out to be. Capitalists and conservatives cannot be Christian. Everyone knows this. One cannot serve God and mammon. Trump's only gods are greed and himself.
Originally posted by SuzianneEveryone, and I mean everyone, knows who the Pope was referencing.
1, The Pope did not "thrust himself" into the campaign. Someone asked him a question, and he answered.
2. The Pope did not mention Trump by name.
3. The Pope was nevertheless right.
4. This was blown way out of proportion. This was not nearly as sensational as everyone made it out to be. Capitalists and conservatives cannot be Christian. Everyone knows this. One cannot serve God and mammon. Trump's only gods are greed and himself.
The Pope had the option not to enter the political arena, but then, he has been continuing to do so for some time now. Why else would he give sermons on climate change and the virtues of redistribution?
Historically speaking, the Pope is a political figure. After all, they have their own little sovereign state and little army.
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18 Mar 16
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Originally posted by divegeesterNo. Trump would be way, way, way worse that GWB.
That America is full of voting idiots is not I question. GWB got two terms and he was possibly worse than Trump, certainly less intelligent and more of puppet. I won't be surprised if Trump gets in but I suspect his numptyness will be largely blocked by the houses. My point here is that Trump isn't the problem, American voters like whodey are.
And I say that as someone who truly despises GWB.
GWB was a typical mainstream bad republican.
Trump is a violence inspiring authoritarian fascist as well as being dumber, thinner skinned, and
more gullible than GWB.
GWB was a bad president that you could live through.
Trump would be a monster for whom forming "The Resistance" is the only valid response to his
winning the election. [Or maybe rapidly emigrating to somewhere else... although I am not sure
anywhere on Earth is far enough with Trump in the White House... Elon may have to move his
Mars colonisation plans up some.]
I'm watching this election cycle and having flashbacks to 1930's Germany and I am not being in
hyperbolic in the slightest.
If that episode of history and our remembering it is supposed to teach us anything it is that you
do not give power to anyone who uses violence to suppress dissent or who is clearly not prepared to
ever give it up once they have got it. Trump fits that billing.
VOX
Donald Trump’s message is violent to its core
EDIT: However, this is still politics and not religion/spirituality. Just involving the pope doesn't change that.
This discussion should happen in debates and not here.