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Misfit Queen

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Originally posted by Great King Rat
You began with the father analogy. I ran with it and showed you the mistakes in your line of thinking. You're more than welcome to refute what I said in my post, but you're going have to say a bit more than "Your theory is flawed. That's not what God is about."
But I will maintain that God Our Father is as deserving (and more so) as our earthly fathers of love and obedience. You cannot project man's failings onto God. Comparing God to humans is comparing apples and oranges.

And yes, worship. As our Creator, He is deserving of at least that.

Infidel

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Originally posted by Suzianne
But I will maintain that God Our Father is as deserving (and more so) as our earthly fathers of love and obedience. You cannot project man's failings onto God. Comparing God to humans is comparing apples and oranges.

And yes, worship. As our Creator, He is deserving of at least that.
Have I entered the twilight zone??

Originally posted by Suzianne

...God Our Father is ... as our earthly fathers...



Originally posted by Suzianne

Comparing God to humans is comparing apples and oranges.


Is there more than one personality present in the person we call Suzianne?

Quiz Master

RHP Arms

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Originally posted by Great King Rat
Have I entered the twilight zone??

Originally posted by Suzianne

[b]...God Our Father is ... as our earthly fathers...




Originally posted by Suzianne

Comparing God to humans is comparing apples and oranges.


Is there more than one personality present in the person we call Suzianne?[/b]
Multiple accounts is not allowed in the TOS but multiple personalities is.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
Theists: You believe in a god. How do you know he is good?

Atheists: If a god existed; what would be your criteria to ascertain the "goodness" of that deity?

To both: Even supposing a "good god" exists - why would you want to worship it?
"You believe in a god. How do you know he is good?"
these two aren't related. so i will answer the second: you do not. i follow god because i believe him to be good. if he wouldn't be good, like the OT god, i wouldn't follow him. belief in his existence is a separate matter.

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I ask again why it is good to divide the world population in two (and two only) groups.

In what group do you find muslims?
In what group do you find buddhists?
In what group do you find agnostics?
In what group do I belong?

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
In what group do I belong?
You might want to start by explaining roughly what your beliefs are.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
Multiple accounts is not allowed in the TOS but multiple personalities is.
I am glad to hear that Wolfgang.

Best regards,

Denise, Xena and Tuong Lu Kim.

The Near Genius

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Originally posted by Great King Rat
1) Love =/= worship

2) Young children often blindly believe and obey their father. As they grow older, as their live experience grows, as they get smarter, they often begin to see that their father in fact wasn't always right. He made mistakes, he had character flaws. He may have been good, but he certainly wasn't as perfect as he once seemed.

3 ...[text shortened]... him or even worship him unconditionally? Maybe you would, but I'd hope I'd be better than that.
There is no threat of torture. However, threat of punishment for discipline is good.

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Originally posted by Great King Rat
You might want to start by explaining roughly what your beliefs are.
All of us believe either the truth or half truths or a lie about things, places and persons.
This reality also applies to eternity, heaven [and its alternative] and God.

Note: "All of us" includes GKR and gb.

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Fort Gordon

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
Now you go with the dumbnuts rhetorics again. When are you going to learn that this is evilution rhetorics and nothing more.

I know that god is evil according to the bible. Read and learn.
And why would I want to worship your evil god?

Did you make a mistake by posting this? Or did you just show some of your Alzheimer symtoms, again?
The theory of evolution is EVIL.

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Fort Gordon

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
Yes, you do. You don't think for yourself. If it said in the bible was flat like a pizza, then you would believe that.
I have to think for you numbnuts. Very little time to think for myself.

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Fort Gordon

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
I ask again why it is good to divide the world population in two (and two only) groups.

In what group do you find muslims?
In what group do you find buddhists?
In what group do you find agnostics?
In what group do I belong?
You belong in the NUMBNUTS group.

Just joking.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
All of us believe either the truth or half truths or a lie about things, places and persons.
This reality also applies to eternity, heaven [and its alternative] and God.

Note: "All of us" includes GKR and gb.
Hold the phone!

So what you are saying is that all of us either believe...

...the truth...

...half truths...

...or lies...

about...

...things...

...and places...

...and persons...

..........

......
...

!!!!!!!

I hope you have the rest of the week off, GB, because I think you are going to be talking to a lot of media. This is big, man. You've uncovered something fundamental. A real gamechanger.



I bow in humble admiration, GB.

Praise you.

Boston Lad

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Originally posted by Great King Rat
Hold the phone!

So what you are saying is that all of us either believe...

...the truth...

...half truths...

...or lies...

about...

...things...

...and places...

...and persons...

..........

......
...

!!!!!!!

I hope you have the rest of the week off, GB, because I think you are going to be talking to a lot of med ...[text shortened]... something fundamental. A real gamechanger.



I bow in humble admiration, GB.

Praise you.
You know, even one of the ancient philosophers [Socrates or Plato, I think] observed that "The unexamined life isn't worth living". As young students and in college or university we learned to study and analyze all topics and information that was presented. Then in later years the press of family and business priorities as well as the tempo of our life and times caused us to accept too many things at face value. Fact is and remains that much of what is said on the media, the internet and in this online forum amounts to little more than distorted logic and emotional froth for the purpose of attention and ego strokes. Only a handful of people in your entire lifetime will look you in the eye while telling the unvarnished truth. Our parents and doctor and lawyer are hopefully four of them. Consider yourself fortunate if you have one or two honest and candid friends.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
You belong in the NUMBNUTS group.

Just joking.
I don't hink you are joking. I think you just are a plain old moron.
Or perhaps it is your Alzheimer talking. You have the age of that, don't you?