Originally posted by SuzianneAre you saying that your activities with the homeless which you describe in your post on the previous page, are actions emanating from the "more abundant life" that Jesus Christ is quoted as referring to in John 10:10?
It's the risk of living life more abundantly.
"I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly."
30 Sep 16
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Originally posted by divegeesterOf course, but since you have said that altruism does not exist, I do not doubt that you disbelieve it.
Are you saying that your activities with the homeless which you describe in your post on the previous page, are actions emanating from the "more abundant life" that Jesus Christ is quoted as referring to in John 10:10?
"I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly."
Do you think John 10:10 is some sort of lie?
Originally posted by SuzianneLet me be clear; I do not see obedience to Christ as altruism. Altruism, like morality, are in my opinion humanistic concepts which help us describe our own behaviours, motivations and right and wrong.
Of course, but since you have said that altruism does not exist, I do not doubt that you disbelieve it.
I do not view your claims on the previous page as altruism. You have proved this with your somewhat sanctimonious comment about these activities being you living the "more abundant life" which Christ promised.
You see, if what you were doing was altruism you would not feel the need to list it all in a slightly grotesque and unbelievable way, as proof of something which is important to you.
03 Oct 16
Originally posted by divegeester"Sanctimonious"?
Let me be clear; I do not see obedience to Christ as altruism. Altruism, like morality, are in my opinion humanistic concepts which help us describe our own behaviours, motivations and right and wrong.
I do not view your claims on the previous page as altruism. You have proved this with your somewhat sanctimonious comment about these activities being ...[text shortened]... l in a slightly grotesque and unbelievable way, as proof of something which is important to you.
Do you see life as being some sort of "zero sum" game?
That someone "making a difference" somehow takes away from your ability to do the same?
More people, not fewer (and especially Christians), should really take a look at what this "more abundant life" idea really means. It is a gift of the Holy Spirit, which also frees us to do the "good works" many associate with Christianity.
Pssssst, hint, it's a good thing, and something which should come standard with the Christian life, not something to excoriate people over, or demean as "sanctimony".
No wonder you don't believe in altruism.
Originally posted by SuzianneAre you saying you've lost count of how many homeless people you have dragged into your car, or are you saying you have also lost count of how many people's lives you have saved by giving them CPR, and lost count of how many have died while you were giving them CPR? Or are you claiming to remember how many lives you have saved (and how many have died as you tended to them) and that all you have actually lost count of is just the number of homeless people you have dragged into your car?
I can't count how many I've had to drag into my car and take them to the hospital. I've had to give some CPR. Some make it, some don't.
03 Oct 16
Originally posted by FMFThis post is a new low. At least she is making a difference.
Are you saying you've lost count of how many homeless people you have dragged into your car, or are you saying you have also lost count of how many people's lives you have saved by giving them CPR, and lost count of how many have died while you were giving them CPR? Or are you claiming to remember how many lives you have saved (and how many have died as you tend ...[text shortened]... ave actually lost count of is just the number of homeless people you have dragged into your car?
What are you doing?
Originally posted by SuzianneTaking the piss? No, not at all. Over such a serious claim that you're making? You saving lives - on the pavement or in your car ~ people dying in your hands? And it happening so often that you are not able to remember how many times it did happen? Absolutely not. You should just answer the question and clarify, as twhitehead suggested too
Normally called taking the piss, no?
03 Oct 16
Originally posted by SuzianneI just suspect that your post of the previous page was a *coughs* flowery embellishment of reality. You subsequently claiming that this is you living the "life more abundant" that Christ promised is making me wince.
"Sanctimonious"?
Do you see life as being some sort of "zero sum" game?
That someone "making a difference" somehow takes away from your ability to do the same?
More people, not fewer (and especially Christians), should really take a look at what this "more abundant life" idea really means. It is a gift of the Holy Spirit, which also frees us to do ...[text shortened]... to excoriate people over, or demean as "sanctimony".
No wonder you don't believe in altruism.