I replied:
1.) Place the QUOTATION below. You found it and did it before. Do it now.
2.) ANSWER my question #1.
Did I at ANY time say that I teach that I KNEW from the Bible that living beings are or were or will be on other planets ?
YES ,I did and HERE it is in quotes ?
Or
No I did not. ?
https://www.chessatwork.com/forum/spirituality/a-few-questions-to-dive.173506
Looking on Divegeester then wrote this:
Your 5th paragraph, 22nd Oct 2014
"But the lost will glorify Him with their endless woe. They will be hung out in chains of punishment as an example to deter other worlds."
I shall await your predictable exit and wobbly return with you usual accompanied avoidance.
25 Jul '17 19:58
https://www.chessatwork.com/forum/spirituality/a-few-questions-to-dive.173506/page-4
But he even back then claimed I wrote "on other worlds"
"The lost will be hung in chains of punishment as a warning to those on other worlds"
@sonship saidNo. You fabricate points of view and comments that are not mine ~ invariably very different from the views I am expressing ~ you put them in quotation marks, and you attribute them to me. You make stuff up about what I have said. And you put it in quotation marks.
I admit that I paraphrase you.
I think this was the entire original paragraph with my bolding.
God's design after life is past, is to destroy the uncorrected.
Corrective dealings have not done them any good. ...
Warning has failed. God will show that He loves righteousness and hates iniquity. If there are laws and threats attached warning of the breaking of those laws, those consequences cannot be a paper posturing. They must be executed. He must be a Righteous Governor.
He will not prove to be a careless faker.
He will prove to mean what He has patiently warned of with mercy and tolerance. Now the uncorrected sinner has been hardened by God's longsuffering. The character of God as Creator and King will fall upon him since His character as Savior has been rejected.
The saved will glorify God with their endless happiness. But the lost will glorify Him with their endless woe. They will be hung out in chains of punishment as an example to deter other worlds. That punishment is designed to deter others from like guilt is evidenced so often in the Bible.
I have been unsuccessful in finding the paragraph which sourced this from Govette. I need more time. Some of this comes directly out of Eternal Suffering of the Wicked and Hades by R. Govette.
That has been acknowledged by me before.
@sonship saidI am not talking about when you "paraphrase" me. I am talking about when you supposedly 'quote' me. It's happened countless times stretching back years. I mean, when you falsely attribute words - in quotation marks - to me (and analyze/attack them a.k.a. straw man argument) is it dishonesty on your part?
I admit that I paraphrase you.
@sonship saidOk this is the version... deny it still?Do you deny claiming this:
“They (the lost) will be hung in chains of punishment as a warning to those on other worlds”
Yes.
That is not what I wrote. Now you know what I wrote.
And you have two threads at least to go over again the arguing we did over what I wrote if you wish.
“They (the lost) will be hung in chains of punishment to deter those on other worlds”
The key here is that you claim there are aliens on other planets who can observe the eternal suffering.
It's hilarious.
@sonship saidPerhaps if you used the correct spelling of Govett in your search?
I have been unsuccessful in finding the paragraph which sourced this from Govette. I need more time. Some of this comes directly out of Eternal Suffering of the Wicked and Hades by R. Govette.
That has been acknowledged by me before.
@sonship saidYou did write other worlds.
Looking on Divegeester then wrote this:
Your 5th paragraph, 22nd Oct 2014
"But the lost will glorify Him with their endless woe. They will be hung out in chains of punishment as an example to deter other worlds."
I shall await your predictable exit and wobbly return with you usual accompanied avoidance.
25 Jul '17 19:58
https://www.ch ...[text shortened]... uote] "The lost will be hung in chains of punishment as a warning to those on other worlds" [/quote]
“The lost will glorify him (Jesus) in their endless woe.”
Sonship.
You also claimed that the knowledge of eternal suffering helped you to forgive those who mistreat you.
Your belief structure is horrendous sonship: a torturing god, aliens observing it, and the torture glorifying your twisted version of Jesus.
My Jesus is the Lord who saves, who’s mercy endures forever, who is king of kings.
Big difference.
You did write other worlds.
That's right. The New Testament speaks of "this world and that which is to come" (Eph. 1:21) .
So I am perfectly justified biblically to speak of "other worlds".
Less then a 10th of 1% of my posting has been spent on me developing this passing statement. YOU need to exploit it to give the false impression that it is a major tenet of my Christian faith.
Which exploitation I count as sensationalism and dishonest.
You've tried again and again to create a scandal.
"Deter other worlds" does not have to mean non-human space aliens "on" other planets watching something. It seems this was first written by me in 2014. Here it is some four years latter and you still use it to drum up scandal rather than properly refute many other things I wrote since then.
"Strange beliefs" you keep reminding. It is kind of sad to see someone so obsessed with living in the past.
Your belief structure is horrendous sonship: a torturing god, aliens observing it, and the torture glorifying your twisted version of Jesus.
My Jesus is the Lord who saves, who’s mercy endures forever, who is king of kings.
Big difference.
You omit to indicate that in the same paragraph I said the saved will glorify Him with their endless happiness.
There is your mercy which is everlasting. The others have REJECTED it and most likely unto eternity spew out their hatred FOR it.