15 Jul 17
Where are the Christians here to defend the validity of the Bible? I am maintaining that the Bible has been pieced together from ancient texts.
Why should anyone trust that the Bible is real, that our 'Creator' is properly depicted, and that Jesus may be a fictional character taken from centuries earlier?
15 Jul 17
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Originally posted by chaney3And that is one of the reasons I believe it to be true.
The entire Bible seems to be re-written from past accounts, including Jesus.
1. Any fool can sit down and write about himself or herself or a religion. But it speaks volumes when a number of people bear witness to a person rather than it all coming from only one source, and then a religion evolving from it. They also do this in a court of law. You would rather have witnesses to the person rather than the person lying to bolster their own position. In this respect, the Bible is unique. The religions that I stay away from are religions who have one person sit down to revise the Bible. It simply does not work that way. This can be said about such religions as Islam, Mormonism, JW's, etc.
Not only do we have eye witness accounts in the Old Testament, but we have prophecy after prophecy that talks about the coming Messiah. Reading Isaiah 53 you can only come to one of two conclusions. It was speaking about Jesus Christ, or the NT was written to match Isaiah 53. If the later, why would God will to harm a righteous man in Isaiah 53? It is the first time in the Bible where we see that, and the only time following.
2. If God is real, then I would think that any religion that is somewhat ancient is a possible candidate for the truth. Off the top of my head, I can think of Hinduism and the Hebrew God. Those religions that have died off, such as the Greek and Roman gods, are obviously false, and I see no reason why God would suddenly jump on the scene today after centuries of ignoring human beings.
3. The message seems right. The words of Jesus are like no other and those words bear witness to many as being true. To the followers of Jesus, his words are infectious and with no substitute.
4. Historical truth. There is Biblical archeology that has sprung up from the pages of the Bible. These are not religious zealots, rather, they are simply archeologists who have enough respect for the veracity of scripture that they have dedicated a whole branch of archeology to studying the words of the Bible to help them on their digs.
5. The resurrection. I am reminded of the movie "Case for Christ" where a man named Lee Strobbel was an atheist who was married to someone that converted to Christianity. He did not like it in the least and threatened to leave her, but she would not back down. Instead of leaving her, however, he chose to disprove the resurrection story. He thought it would be easy since he was an investigative reporter for a living. The more he dug, however, the more he realized that the story seemed to be accurate and he converted. You could probably find the movie on Netflix if interested.
4. The testimony of other Christians. Seeing how peoples lives have changed is nothing short of miraculous. I've witnessed complete transformations that are inexplicable once people come to Christ.
5. Seeing God work in your own life. There are things that happen that become inexplicable. I think once you see enough evidences in your own life, there is no going back.
15 Jul 17
Originally posted by whodeyYour post does not address the character of God in the Bible, which seems man made. A 'God' would not act so immature. Not to mention that the story of Jesus seems to be taken from previous accounts of earlier cultures.
And that is one of the reasons I believe it to be true.
1. Any fool can sit down and write about himself or herself or a religion. But it speaks volumes when a number of people bear witness to a person rather than it all coming from only one source, and then a religion evolving from it. They also do this in a court of law. You would rather have witness ...[text shortened]... e inexplicable. I think once you see enough evidences in your own life, there is no going back.
The story of Gilgamesh for example negates the Noah story.
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15 Jul 17
Originally posted by whodeyYou can watch for free here....
And that is one of the reasons I believe it to be true.
1. Any fool can sit down and write about himself or herself or a religion. But it speaks volumes when a number of people bear witness to a person rather than it all coming from only one source, and then a religion evolving from it. They also do this in a court of law. You would rather have witness ...[text shortened]... e inexplicable. I think once you see enough evidences in your own life, there is no going back.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Case+for+Christ&view=detail&mid=40C9544AEC956121CBF040C9544AEC956121CBF0&FORM=VIRE
15 Jul 17
Originally posted by checkbaiterCheckbaiter, the Bible is full of holes. Not to mention that God's character in the OT was absurd. It needed help, hence the arrival of Jesus to upgrade the mean spirited, murdering God.
You can watch for free here....
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Case+for+Christ&view=detail&mid=40C9544AEC956121CBF040C9544AEC956121CBF0&FORM=VIRE
Something is wrong here.
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15 Jul 17
Originally posted by chaney3Apparently you have not watched the video.
Checkbaiter, the Bible is full of holes. Not to mention that God's character in the OT was absurd. It needed help, hence the arrival of Jesus to upgrade the mean spirited, murdering God.
Something is wrong here.