15 Feb 13
Originally posted by galveston75OK, it is your prerogative to sidestep the question.
You missed the point of that scripture, not me.
Originally posted by galveston75
So if they have never heard of him or have never seen a Bible, he knows that. But he created us all and the same results will happen to any of us.
If you truly believe that "the same results will happen to" everyone once God "knows their heart and mental condition" and has judged them [even if, as you say, "they have never heard of him or have never seen a Bible"], then I reckon you need to reject and distance yourself from this kind of stuff because it contradicts what you are saying:
"There are billions of people who do not know Jehovah. Many of them in ignorance practice things that God's Word shows to be wicked. If they persist in this course, they will be among those who perish during the great tribulation." [Watchtower 1993]
"Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." [Watchtower 1989]
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15 Feb 13
Originally posted by galveston75Maybe I can be more direct. Are there any sex acts voluntarily done between a loving husband and wife that can only be done to "satisfy their own sinful nature", acts that by their very nature "will harvest decay and death from that sinful nature" and cannot be done by a a husband and wife "who live to please the Spirit?"
God knows and see's everyone on the planet and knows their situation much more then we could ever imagine.
And he knows their heart and mental condition. That's why he is the judge of all, not us.
So if they have never heard of him or have never seen a Bible, he knows that. But he created us all and the same results will happen to any of us.
We all ...[text shortened]... g what is good. At just the right time we will reap a harvest of blessing if we don’t give up.
These are acts that by their very 1 or 2 or 3 word description, are clearly out of bounds. If there are, and you don't care to name them, a simple yes, there are such acts, will do.
16 Feb 13
Originally posted by googlefudgeFirstly you should agree with me because we belong to the same religion! 😉.... morality is subjective.
Um... No it isn't.
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Maybe I have used "subjective" wrongly?
All I am saying is that people have different morals so that A may behave in a certain way X and believe it moral but B would not do X believing it immoral.
For instance a vegetarian may consider eating meat immoral.
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16 Feb 13
Originally posted by wolfgang59morality is defiantly subjective. i think the differing opinions on this forum are great example of how subjective they are.
Firstly you should agree with me because we belong to the same religion! 😉
Maybe I have used "subjective" wrongly?
All I am saying is that people have different morals so that A may behave in a certain way X and believe it moral but B would not do X believing it immoral.
For instance a vegetarian may consider eating meat immoral.
(bring it googlefudge, im in my red speedo's, greased up, covered in mud and as slippery as an atheists girlfriends vagina, lets go!!)
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17 Feb 13
Originally posted by RBHILLSo I have read.
And chapter 6.
I have seen that there is some criticism of his book from some Christians and feminists.
This is the most complete book review/report I have seen:
http://www.dennyburk.com/my-review-of-mark-driscolls-real-marriage/
You might want to experience the book on your own without looking at this link but others may be interested. It gives an alternative view from that they express and discusses chapter 10.
17 Feb 13
Originally posted by JS357Well of course from feminists because they are of the would. They don't understand the moving of the spirit through a believer.
So I have read.
I have seen that there is some criticism of his book from some Christians and feminists.
This is the most complete book review/report I have seen:
http://www.dennyburk.com/my-review-of-mark-driscolls-real-marriage/
You might want to experience the book on your own without looking at this link but others may be interested. It gives an alternative view from that they express and discusses chapter 10.
18 Feb 13
Originally posted by RBHILLReally? Really??
Well of course from feminists because they are of the would. They don't understand the moving of the spirit through a believer.
Of course it would be a man to say this.
Do you also think a woman should be silent and cover her head in church?
Or perhaps you think church is "man's business" and that the women should be in the back cooking up some "refreshment" for the menfolk?