Originally posted by ThinkOfOneoh dear its gonna be roasty toasty for you.
[b]What was my "initial attempt" ?
That would be your initial attempt to speak on what I think and Sharia at the top of Page 8.
BTW, my impression of why you called GB a bigot was not based on all the factors you have in your mind; it was based on some factors I had in my mind when I happened to notice this thread😵
No kidding. Did I ...[text shortened]... d be better off not trying to surmise what other posters think. You don't seem very good at it."[/b]
Originally posted by stellspalfieAppreciate it. Not only does it seem that they have lost "all ability to read and comprehend", but to be at all rational.
just read this thread for the first time and wanted to offer my sympathy. it would seem people on here are so intent hating islam that they have lost all ability to read and comprehend.
The following seems to speak to what might be at work here:
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. described bigotry in the following quotation: "The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract."
Pasted from <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry>
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneYour friend Oliver Wendell Holmes must be from a distant galaxy. If he were from around this part of the universe he would know of the atrocities committed in the name of Islam because it stinks to high heaven.
Appreciate it. Not only does it seem that they have lost "all ability to read and comprehend", but to be at all rational.
The following seems to speak to what might be at work here:
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. described bigotry in the following quotation: "The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract."
Pasted from <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry>
List of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 30 Days
[http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/]
Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2014.01.07 Pakistan Karachi 6 0 Sunni fundamentalists cut the throats of six Sufis for visiting a shrine.
2014.01.07 Iraq Baghdad 12 0 Muslim fundamentalists shoot a dozen sinners to death at a brothel.
2014.01.06 Nigeria Riyom 30 25 Thirty villagers are massacred by Fulani raiders.
2014.01.06 Pakistan Hangu 1 2 A 14-year-old boy bleeds to death following a suicide bombing at his school.
2014.01.05 Iraq Adhaim 6 0 al-Qaeda gunmen summarily execute six civilians.
2014.01.04 Thailand Pattani 1 1 A man drinking tea at a shop is shot three times in the head by Muslim terrorists.
2014.01.03 Egypt Cairo 1 0 Muslim Brotherhood activists shoot dead a man who 'yelled insults' from the window of his house.
2014.01.02 Lebanon Beirut 5 77 An al-Qaeda suicide bomber takes out five people outside a restaurant.
2014.01.02 Yemen Aden 1 0 A man is gunned down by al-Qaeda.
2014.01.02 Kenya Mombasa 0 10 Fundamentalists are suspected of throwing a grenade into a pool hall.
2014.01.02 Thailand Yala 1 0 Muslim 'separatists' shoot a civilian to death.
2014.01.02 DRC North Kivu 3 0 Foreign Islamists kill three local soldiers.
2014.01.02 Iraq Balad Ruz 19 37 Nineteen people at a car dealership are pulled into pieces by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2014.01.02 Iraq Latifiya 5 9 Muslim militants wipe out five shoppers at a market with a well-planted bomb.
2014.01.01 Somalia Mogadishu 20 30 A suicide blast outside a hotel leaves twenty dead.
2014.01.01 Iraq Tarmiya 4 12 Sunni radicals storm a police station and kill four officers.
2014.01.01 Pakistan Quetta 3 31 A bus carrying Shia pilgrims is hit by Sunni suicide bomber, leaving three dead.
2014.01.01 Iraq Rutba 2 7 A suicide bomber murders two Iraqis.
2013.12.31 Iraq Baghdad 7 7 Seven residents of a Shiite neighborhood are dismantled by al-Qaeda bombs.
2013.12.31 Iraq Baghdad 4 0 'Insurgents' fire mortars into a housing project, killing four innocents.
2013.12.31 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 Sunnis murder two Shia with a bomb mounted on a truck.
2013.12.31 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Islamic terrorists storm a home and shoot a married couple to death.
2013.12.31 Egypt Ain Shams 1 0 Muslim Brotherhood members shoot a young Christian in the head outside a church.
2013.12.31 Yemen Aden 4 3 Fedayeen suicide car bombers strike a police station, killing at least four.
2013.12.31 Pakistan Peshawar 3 4 Children are among the casualties of a bomb blast in a residential area.
2013.12.31 Nigeria Maikatako 2 16 Fulani gunmen fire into a church during a New Years Eve service, killing two worshippers.
2013.12.31 Philippines Basilan 6 6 An Abu Sayyaf group is thought responsible for a vicious attack on a New Year's Eve party that leaves a half-dozen dead.
2013.12.30 Pakistan Pashtunabad 0 2 A woman and child are hurt when terrorists throw a hand grenade at a polio team.
2013.12.30 Pakistan Charsadda 3 1 Suspected Islamists plant a bomb inside a home which kills a woman and her two children.
2013.12.30 Russia Volgograd 16 35 A bus is blown up by a suicide bomber, leaving at least sixteen dead commuters.
2013.12.30 Iraq Mosul 4 3 A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes out four bystanders.
2013.12.30 Iraq Baiji 2 9 A man and his son are murdered by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2013.12.30 Pakistan Rawalpindi 2 1 Two guards outside a Shia mosque are taken down by Sunni rivals.
2013.12.30 Dagestan Khasavyurt 2 5 An Islamist IED takes the lives of two passersby.
2013.12.29 Russia Volgograd 18 51 Children are among the casualties when a female suicide bomber detonates at a train station, killing at least eighteen.
2013.12.29 Iraq Abu Ghraib 6 6 al-Qaeda shooting and bombing attacks leave six dead.
2013.12.29 Iraq Mosul 8 13 A suicide bomber takes out eight Iraqis.
2013.12.29 Iraq Mosul 5 3 A child is among five people who bleed to death following two Mujahideen bombings.
2013.12.29 Nigeria Kwajffa 4 0 Boko Haram shoot four people to death at a Christian village.
2013.12.29 Iraq Garma 4 10 Islamic militants kill four Iraqis in a shooting attack.
2013.12.29 Pakistan Karachi 5 2 Five Shia are shot to death in two separate attacks by dedicated Sunnis.
2013.12.28 Nigeria Tashan Alede 8 3 Pro-Sharia advocates storm a bachelor party and randomly shoot guests.
2013.12.28 Pakistan Nowshera 2 0 An 18-year-old girl and 22-year-old man are shot to death by her conservative family for an 'illicit' relationship.
2013.12.28 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Muslim 'separatists' shoot a 5-year-old girl in the head.
2013.12.28 Pakistan Karachi 2 0 Sunni radicals fire on a rival religious scholar, killing two of his guards.
2013.12.28 Pakistan Peshawar 1 1 Fundamentalists shoot a polio worker to death at a clinic where children are being immunized.
2013.12.28 Afghanistan Nawagai 1 1 The Taliban fire a rocket into a village, killing a local.
2013.12.27 Lebanon Beirut 7 70 Hezbollah assassinates a former minister and six others with a car bomb.
2013.12.27 Russia Pyatigorsk 3 0 Islamic militants detonate a car bomb that takes three lives.
2013.12.27 Afghanistan Kabul 3 7 A suicide bomber attacks a NATO convoy, killing three.
2013.12.27 Somalia Mogadishu 11 7 Islamists plant a bomb in a restaurant that kills seven patrons.
2013.12.26 Egypt Cairo 1 3 Suspected Islamists kill one person with a bomb attack on a bus.
2013.12.26 Iraq Baghdad 3 50 Three Iranian dissidents were killed during a targeted Shia attack.
2013.12.26 Iraq Mosul 2 1 'Insurgents' invade a home and riddle a family with bullets.
2013.12.26 Iraq Diyala 4 0 Four Iraqis are kidnapped from their homes and murdered by terrorists.
2013.12.26 Yemen Hadramawt 3 0 Three local soldiers are machine-gunned point-blank by al-Qaeda.
2013.12.25 Pakistan Karachi 4 23 Two teens are among four persons killed in separate bomb blasts.
2013.12.25 Dagestan Mutsalaul 1 2 A family is attacked for selling alcohol. Fundamentalists manage to kill an 11-year-old girl.
2013.12.25 Iraq Baghdad 11 21 Holy Warriors target a market in a Christian area, killing at least eleven patrons in two blasts.
2013.12.25 Iraq Baghdad 26 38 Over two dozen innocents outside a Catholic church are massacred by Religion of Peace bombers.
2013.12.25 Afghanistan Logar 6 13 Six people are killed when Islamic extremists detonate a bicycle bomb outside a humanitarian aid office.
2013.12.25 Thailand Yala 1 3 A 58-year-old civilian is shot to death outside a mosque by Islamic 'insurgents'.
2013.12.25 Iraq Baghdad 4 11 Jihadi bombers murder four people at a soccer field.
2013.12.25 Iraq Balad 8 13 A bomb near a playground leaves eight dead.
2013.12.25 Iraq Tal Afar 1 17 Bombs targeting Shia pilgrims leave at least one dead.
2013.12.24 Iraq Bartala 2 17 Two Shia pilgrims are sent to Allah by Sunni bombers.
2013.12.24 Iraq Tikrit 5 18 A suicide bombing is one of several that leave five dead Iraqis.
2013.12.24 Israel Nachal Oz 1 0 A civilian is picked off across the border by a Palestinian sniper.
2013.12.24 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two brothers are gunned down by Mujahid.
2013.12.23 Egypt Cairo 16 100 A suicide bomber detonates at a police station, ending over a dozen lives in horrible fashion.
2013.12.23 Iraq Tikrit 5 5 Five journalists are killed during an al-Qaeda suicide assault on their office.
2013.12.23 Dagestan Tsuntinsky 4 0 Four people, including a border guard, are taken out by pro-Caliphate gunmen.
2013.12.23 Thailand Yala 1 3 A 12-year-old is among the casualties of a terrorist shooting.
2013.12.23 Iraq Baqubah 3 6 Three commuters are shot to death by al-Qaeda.
2013.12.23 Iraq Baghdad 3 9 Three Shiites are blown to bits by Sunni bombers at a market.
2013.12.23 Iraq Baghdad 2 9 Islamic militants open fire on a bus, killing three passengers.
2013.12.23 Pakistan Karachi 3 0 Islamists are suspected in the torture and murder of three kidnapped members of a secular-leaning party.
2013.12.23 Iraq Tikrit 4 0 Four college students are murdered by Mujahid gunmen.
2013.12.22 Libya Aguiria 13 3 Thirteen people are pulled into pieces by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2013.12.22 Nigeria Chanchu 2 4 A 4-year-old is among two villagers shot to death by Muslim terrorists.
2013.12.22 Iraq Baghdad 13 34 A university student is among thirteen people shot to death by Mujahideen.
2013.12.22 Thailand Songkhla 0 27 Muslim 'insurgents' detonate a car bomb outside a hotel.
2013.12.22 Syria Homs 7 0 Terrorists snag five schoolchildren and two others with a car bomb.
2013.12.21 Pakistan Jamrud 1 0 A polio worker is machine-gunned in his clinic by Muslim radicals.
2013.12.21 Iraq Rutba 18 32 Eighteen Iraqis soldiers are killed during an al-Qaeda ambush.
2013.12.21 Syria Aleppo 5 8 Women and children are killed by an Islamist mortar attack on a residential neighborhood.
2013.12.21 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Muslim assassins shoot a man in the back of the head as he is eating lunch.
2013.12.21 Iraq Shirqat 6 5 Mujahideen kill six Iraqis with two bombs.
2013.12.21 Iraq Hawija 5 6 Five people, including an old woman, are dismantled by a Sunni bomb blast at their home.
2013.12.21 Iraq Latifiya 3 6 Three Shiite pilgrims are sent straight to Allah by terrorists.
2013.12.21 Syria Daraa 12 10 Twelve people are reported killed when Islamists shell a church distributing aid to the needy.
2013.12.20 Iraq Hawija 6 0 Six young men are pulled out of their homes and executed by suspected al-Qaeda.
2013.12.20 Nigeria Bama 20 12 Twenty people, including women and children, are killed during a raid by a pro-Caliphate group.
2013.12.20 Pakistan Mauripur 2 24 The Taliban is thought responsible for a bombing that leaves two dead.
2013.12.20 Iraq Tuz Khurmato 4 5 A sectarian bombing at a cemetery leaves four dead.
2013.12.20 Iraq Tuz Khurmato 12 31 A vicious double-bombing at a livestock market shreds a dozen patrons.
2013.12.20 Pakistan Karachi 2 25 Two people lose their lives to a Shahid suicide ...
Originally posted by stellspalfieI was using the Taliban as an example. It is pretty clear they are poster boys for the concept of terrorists, along with Al Qaeda and many other splinter groups like the ones forcing people into Islam in Sudan as we speak.
what????? are we talking about the taliban???? do you know what my opinion is on the taliban? nope.
its funny, by making a post that points out that people have not been reading and comprehending posts.........a bunch of posters start guessing at what i think and believe, adding opinions that i never voiced........bizarre.
I intensely dislike ALL organized religions myself and I see Christian militants and Muslim militants and Hindu militants and wonder what a fundamentalist christian church member would do in a call to arms for whatever stupid reason the church deacon or whatever, calls for.
My question is not just limited to Islam.
I think ALL those religions stink to high heaven.
I can't believe a real god would ever condone such activity by these terrorists.
That said, I think it is clear all these religions are just man made in the first place, no god needed to make a religion where the god just happens to be made in the image of man, even though they say it the other way round. Of Course they say that.
Like a real god would have ANY human attributes like Jealousy and gender bias.
Total BS.
Originally posted by Rajk999Like I said, "Not only does it seem that they have lost 'all ability to read and comprehend', but to be at all rational."
Your friend Oliver Wendell Holmes must be from a distant galaxy. If he were from around this part of the universe he would know of the atrocities committed in the name of Islam because it stinks to high heaven.
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneWhat a great idea! Perhaps you should retract your accusation of GBs being a bigot.
[b]What was my "initial attempt" ?
That would be your initial attempt to speak on what I think and Sharia at the top of Page 8.
BTW, my impression of why you called GB a bigot was not based on all the factors you have in your mind; it was based on some factors I had in my mind when I happened to notice this thread😵
No kidding. Therei ...[text shortened]... d be better off not trying to surmise what other posters think. You don't seem very good at it."[/b]
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneOriginally posted by ThinkOfOne
Interesting that GB insists on posting tripe from a website that is clearly the product of bigoted Christians preying on the ignorance of others by using dishonest tactics to further their fear mongering agenda whilst trying to claim that he has "no agenda" and is only doing so to "promote conversation".One would think that if that were the case, GB would ...[text shortened]... wise. It's quite clear that GB has the same agenda as the website that he has repeatedly quoted.
"It's quite clear that GB very much has an agenda despite his claims otherwise. It's quite clear that GB has the same agenda as the website that he has repeatedly quoted."
* As someone who knows GB's online persona intimately, I can assure you that he does have an intense desire on RHP's Spirituality Forum since joining in July, 2007. Cut the membrane of his deepest motivations and a single intent seeps out:
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"Better yet, while your in the shower... "
"For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast." Ephesians 2:8-9
"For by grace you have been saved through..." empirical experience? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through..." rationalism? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through..." changing my personality? Nope
"For by grace you have been saved through..." giving up some of my pleasures? Nope
"For by grace you have been saved through..." positive thinking? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through..." being nice to people I can't stand? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through..." joining a church? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through..." making charitable donations to worthy causes? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through..." making an effort to help God save the planet? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through..." doing nice things for other people? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through..." arguing with people in online spirituality forums? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through..." denying my soul's existence? Nope.
"For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast." Ephesians 2:8-9 Why? Because faith is nonmeritorious. Christ did the work of satisfying the Father's Justice and Righteousness [Divine Integrity] through His substitutionary spiritual death in hypostatic union [perfect humanity and undiminished deity in one person forever]; Christ's work was done with you personally in mind. A grace gift is being offered [a gift that none of us can ever deserve or earn]. Accept it or reject it: either way, it's a decision with eternal consequences and it's a decision each of us make. There is no second chance or pardon by default after physical death.
"And inasmuch as it is [laid up] appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment." Hebrews 9:27
James described human life on earth is as "a fleeting vapor trail". Even if your eventual obituary reads "___ _____ departed this life at the age of 100 years of natural causes" it's brief. Chances are that some of us here today may breathe our final breath before the calendar changes to January 2, 2015 (as the result of an accident or sudden illness or botched cranial surgery to remove a malignant cancerous tumor). Some of us may be around for decades, periodically publically affirming our rejection of the Risen Christ. Why? It's too simple; it's so simple it's an insult to my high level of intelligence. Please think about these momentous things while your driving alone on an important mission. Better yet, while your in the shower or tub or standing naked before your bathroom vanity mirror. Why? Because within that venue it's virtually impossible to escape an awareness of your physical imperfections, frailities and mortality. Unit of measure of life: one day at a time.
Think about this Red Hot Pawn Spirituality Forum thread and about your clever posts and cowardly Thumbs Down that gained or reinforced the approval of your likeminded friends. Then think again about yourself and the eternal destiny of your soul, which will reside at one of two addresses for all eternity: with God sharing His perfect happiness or alone suffering for eternity in the Lake of Fire. Yes, alone; your only company will be the worm of memory which never dies and which will constantly remind you of the information you've received on this very site, decided was trash and summarily dismissed.
"For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:23) "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten [uniquely born] Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world; but that the world should be saved through Him. He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name [person] of the only begotten [uniquely born] Son of God." (John 3:16-18) "Believe in the Lord Jesus and you shall be saved. " (Acts 16:31a) "I am the way, and the truth and the life; no man comes to the Father but through me." (John 14:6b) The choice is yours.
Thread 157261 But a natural man [unbeliever] does not accept the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them [the Gospel and Bible doctrine], because they are spiritually discerned." (1 Corinthians 2:14) "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey [the command to believe in] the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." John 3:36
* ThinkOfOne, GB doesn't want anyone here to have an excuse for their default choice to fry in the Lake of Fire forever. Bob
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneBut that not what you were claiming earlier.
GB has shown himself to be a bigot with his posts on this thread. If you don't like it, take it up with him.
When I asked you repeatedly to explain why you were calling GB a bigot after his OP, your only response was to point out that your subsequent posts to GBs would explain why you were calling him a bigot. Therefore his post required you to make assumptions and provide further explanation of what he had said. And yet now you are telling black beetle that he shouldn't be interpreting other people's posts.