Richard Dawkins among friends, Bill Maher:

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V

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I did not know evolution could predict anything. I thought it was all suppose
to have began by random chance and continues that way with an occasional
input from natural selection (adaptation) due to environment changes.
you don't know a lot about evolution. you can fix that by actually reading books on evolution, rather than getting your information from creationist propaganda sites.

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Originally posted by VoidSpirit
you don't know a lot about evolution. you can fix that by actually reading books on evolution, rather than getting your information from creationist propaganda sites.
But I understand that you can't trust those books on evolution because
of bias.

V

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Originally posted by RJHinds
But I understand that you can't trust those books on evolution because
of bias.
you shouldn't trust anything on principle. but in reading and researching, you will learn the reasoning behind it, the observations that have been made, the advances in medical science due to the predictions of the theory proving accurate.

at the very least, you'll be able to formulate objections to actual claims made by evolution rather than the strawman arguments you find at creationist sites.

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Originally posted by VoidSpirit
you shouldn't trust anything on principle. but in reading and researching, you will learn the reasoning behind it, the observations that have been made, the advances in medical science due to the predictions of the theory proving accurate.

at the very least, you'll be able to formulate objections to actual claims made by evolution rather than the strawman arguments you find at creationist sites.
It is my understanding that advances in medical science had nothing
to do with the theory of evolution being true.

Cornovii

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Originally posted by RJHinds
It is my understanding that advances in medical science had nothing
to do with the theory of evolution being true.
Well then your understanding is wrong.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
Well then your understanding is wrong.
Have I reduced you to a simple statement with no proof?

Cornovii

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Have I reduced you to a simple statement with no proof?
I'll give you proof in a minute.

But first explain to me how you reached this 'understanding' when by your own admission you have read nothing on evolution (apart from 2 books written by Christian apologists).

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Originally posted by RJHinds
It is my understanding that advances in medical science had nothing
to do with the theory of evolution being true.
Actually, even that is not true. Studying the evolutionary paths of humans has shown where certain diseases, genetically based, like Tay Sachs or sickle cell anemia both come from and what parts of the world they originate in and possible stem cell treatments for a cure.

All that came DIRECTLY from the study of evolution. If we never had the brilliant work of Darwin, we may never have developed the science of genetics.

Even if these developments came 150 years after Darwin, he is the origin of the science of genetics.

They go hand in hand.

Of course you are free to reject all of that. Of course also, if you happen to have some kind of a genetic problem that stem cell medicine can cure, I imagine you would be the first one in line to accept such a godless treatment.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Have I reduced you to a simple statement with no proof?
This should keep you going -

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2868294/

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
This should keep you going -

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2868294/
I can't understand all that information from your link. It seems to be
saying something about studying why we get disease. Then it says
something about Darwinism. However, I could not decipher any
absolute connection between how evolution helped because we
already know about mutations causing problems and we don't need
evolution for that.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Actually, even that is not true. Studying the evolutionary paths of humans has shown where certain diseases, genetically based, like Tay Sachs or sickle cell anemia both come from and what parts of the world they originate in and possible stem cell treatments for a cure.

All that came DIRECTLY from the study of evolution. If we never had the brilliant w ...[text shortened]... icine can cure, I imagine you would be the first one in line to accept such a godless treatment.
Genetics has nothing to do with Darwinism and evolution.
See the wikipedia article on Genetics:

"The fact that living things inherit traits from their parents has been used since prehistoric times to improve crop plants and animals through selective breeding. However, the modern science of genetics, which seeks to understand the process of inheritance, only began with the work of Gregor Mendel in the mid-19th century. Although he did not know the physical basis for heredity, Mendel observed that organisms inherit traits via discrete units of inheritance, which are now called genes."

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I can't understand all that information from your link. It seems to be
saying something about studying why we get disease. Then it says
something about Darwinism. However, I could not decipher any
absolute connection between how evolution helped because we
already know about mutations causing problems and we don't need
evolution for that.
That's right, you can't understand it becaase you don't know what it's about. That concise statement sums up your views on most matters, yet still you feel the need to blather your bilge across the forum.

Next time instead of making some grand blanket statement about something on which you know nothing. Keep your beak shut instead. It might just make you look less of a tit than you do already.

V

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Originally posted by RJHinds
[b]I can't understand all that information from your link.
straight from the horse's mouth!

now remedy that problem and get yourself educated. perhaps then, you'll have the skills and authority to challenge the theory.

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Originally posted by VoidSpirit
straight from the horse's mouth!

now remedy that problem and get yourself educated. perhaps then, you'll have the skills and authority to challenge the theory.
It depends on the type of education one receives and in your case it seems
to be more of a hinderance than a help in understanding the truth.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
It depends on the type of education one receives and in your case it seems
to be more of a hinderance than a help in understanding the truth.
hehehe. okay.