22 Jan 18
Originally posted by @js357If they do not have sex at all then fine. If they had sex then both are to be put to death according to Leviticus.
“Homosexual” is an identity, to anyone who is keeping up with society’s evolution as reflected in its use of words. The Bible condemns those who commit a certain act, and at that, only the penetrator, regardless of his “identity.” In some societies the penetrator is not labeled as homosexual. Homosexuals who do not “lie with a man as one lies with a woman,” w ...[text shortened]... . Edit: and is probably contaminated by a puritanical distaste for calling things what they are.
22 Jan 18
Originally posted by @handyandyJesus quoted the simple story as if were true. Do you not believe what Jesus taught?
Adam and Eve? A simplistic way of explaining a long and complicated story.
23 Jan 18
Originally posted by @handyandySo why do you need a Bible to know what you believe Jesus taught. Just be like Joseph Smith and make it up as you go. Of course you don't need to look in a hat as you do it.
I don't believe that's what Jesus taught. The account was written by a biased reporter.
23 Jan 18
Originally posted by @eladarYou don't think Joseph Smith was divinely inspired but you do think the writer of Revelation was?
So why do you need a Bible to know what you believe Jesus taught. Just be like Joseph Smith and make it up as you go. Of course you don't need to look in a hat as you do it.
23 Jan 18
Originally posted by @handyandyHe asked about the only one theory. I showed why it is wrong.
Leviticus is obsolete.
23 Jan 18
Originally posted by @eladarWhat about Catholics, Greek Orthodox, christadelphian, Christian scientists. How do you personally decide what is right directionally?
Joe Smith was led by a demon. Mormons are devil worshippers.
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23 Jan 18
Originally posted by @handyandyIt is indeed obsolete according to Paul in Romans 13, because in most if not all countries, it is illegal to take the law into your own hands, and it would be criminal murder if not also a hate crime. Paul knew what he was doing in Romans 13.
Leviticus is obsolete.
24 Jan 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterYou have to affirm the Nicene creed to be Christian... I will make a few exceptions for modalists and some slight deviations on the Trinity, but generally speaking, the Nicene creed is probably the best way to summarize what a true Christian sect is.
What about Catholics, Greek Orthodox, christadelphian, Christian scientists. How do you personally decide what is right directionally?
Jehovah's Witnesses and some very liberal sects can make the cut, but Mormons? Never.
It is a fair definiton of what constitutes a Christian because it accurately restricts it in addition to not catering to any particular conservative/liberal bend.
24 Jan 18
Originally posted by @fmfNo, it wasn't a lie.
The Hebrews committed genocide against people living on land they wanted to settle on. On what basis are you claiming that the justification that they wrote down later in their chronicling of the genocide - that they were ordered by a supernatural being to kill all the people and take their land - was not an historical lie?
They were told to annihilate a group, and they did. But they actually failed in the task for the Moabites or Ammonites. I am not sure which it was or the details of it, but yeah...
The point stands: they were ordered to wipe out their enemy and they did so. It was accurately described.
24 Jan 18
Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleWere the First Council of Nicaea and the First Council of Constantinople prophesized or mentioned by early Christian writers in the decades or first couple of centuries after Jesus was executed?
You have to affirm the Nicene creed to be Christian.