Mental Illness

Originally posted by FMF
It's seems pretty clear that divegeester was talking about Andreas Lubitz, no?

Do ya think?

Originally posted by divegeester
No, I'm saying that the guy who crashed the plane into the mountain was only dangerous because he was permitted to fly a plane, not because he was mentally I'll.

Do you think he would have crashed that plain had he not been mentally I'll?

Originally posted by josephw
Do ya think?

Yes. Did you really not pick up on that?

Originally posted by divegeester
But at the risk of you feeling I'm avoiding your point, which is what you do repeatedly by the way, yes of course, some people with "certain mental illnesses" are inherently dangerous.

And you're qualified to determine who and what?

I don't avoid, I just refuse to get bogged down chasing after rabbit trails. I guess it's difficult for some to stay on topic, so they then feel the need to further obscure the topic of discussion by pursuing needless discussions.

Originally posted by josephw
I don't avoid, I just refuse to get bogged down chasing after rabbit trails. I guess it's difficult for some to stay on topic, so they then feel the need to further obscure the topic of discussion by pursuing needless discussions.

Wut?

Originally posted by josephw
Do you think he would have crashed that plain had he not been mentally I'll?

I'm saying that he would have found it difficult to crash it had he not been allowed to fly it. Furthermore he would have not been a danger to anyone else.

Originally posted by FMF
Yes. Did you really not pick up on that?

You're just the brightest light in the room aren't you FMF.

I have no idea what's going on in the world. 🙄

Originally posted by josephw
And you're qualified to determine who and what?

I don't avoid, I just refuse to get bogged down chasing after rabbit trails. I guess it's difficult for some to stay on topic, so they then feel the need to further obscure the topic of discussion by pursuing needless discussions.

You are a the biggest "avoider" in this forum. By far.

Originally posted by josephw
You're just the brightest light in the room aren't you FMF.

I have no idea what's going on in the world. 🙄

When divegeester said "He was only "dangerous" because he was allowed to fly a plane, not because he was mentally ill" the "he" referred to Andreas Lubitz, did you not glean that from the conversation?

Originally posted by divegeester
I'm saying that he would have found it difficult to crash it had he not been allowed to fly it. Furthermore he would have not been a danger to anyone else.

Are you excusing the fact that the man had a mental illness as the cause of the plane crashing?

Originally posted by josephw
Are you excusing the fact that the man had a mental illness as the cause of the plane crashing?

Surely divegeester is saying that this man + mental illness + plane = catastrophic danger + tragedy.

Originally posted by FMF
When divegeester said "He was only "dangerous" because he was allowed to fly a plane, not because he was mentally ill" the "he" referred to Andreas Lubitz, did you not glean that from the conversation?

Wut?

Originally posted by josephw
Wut?

Did you not understand who the "he" was in the divegeester post you responded to?

Originally posted by divegeester to josephw
You are a the biggest "avoider" in this forum. By far.

Bingo.

Originally posted by josephw
Are you excusing the fact that the man had a mental illness as the cause of the plane crashing?

No. I'm saying that a man with a mental illness who exhibited no indications of causing any harm to anyone ever, became "dangerous" when he was allowed to fly a plane. There is no evidence that despite his mental illness that he was a danger to anyone outside of the circumstance of him flying a plane. It therefore follows that him being permitted to fly the plane is what made him dangerous, not him having the mental illness.