Originally posted by FMF
On page 1, I addressed Grampy Bobby ~ and the specific content of what he had posted ~ I think six times and there was not one genuine response to any of them. What does he post instead? A long copy paste of quotations, many of which offer little or no insight. Where is the "civil conversation" he claimed was his objective in the OP?

Indeed, I think you'd get farther in a face to face conversation, with no electronic devices to provide aid (distraction?).

Originally posted by SwissGambit
Indeed, I think you'd get farther in a face to face conversation, with no electronic devices to provide aid (distraction?).

I am not convinced that his use of flimsy or inconsequential substance that he often laboriously presents as his bedrock premises apropos of a high school debaters club would see him fare any better face to face. 😀

Originally posted by Suzianne
He's speaking of Jesus Christ.

Where did you get the "we"?

Ah, right, of course he was.

And behind all created life there is an uncreated LIFE. This uncreated Person is indestructible, never had a beginning, will never end.

I took that to mean our individual persons. Move on, nothing to see here. Move on.

When you capitalise a word like person, it usually means you're talking about your god right?

Originally posted by SwissGambit
It's not that I object to quotes. It's just that I expect them to be a bit more honed in on the subject at hand. With GB, it's like he googled "death quotes" and listed his top 10 hits, without checking if they were applicable to the course of the thread. It's tiresome.

Sorry to disappoint. Maybe next time they'll hit the mark.

Originally posted by Suzianne
He's speaking of Jesus Christ.

Where did you get the "we"?

His whole point just passed you by like a warm summer day, didn't it?

Well to outsiders who have not been indoctrinated into your religions
craziness it reads like total gibberish.

So you should allow for having to explain in detail to an outsider what
seems obvious to insiders.

“Every man's life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and how he died that distinguish one man from another.” -Ernest Hemingway

Didn't Ernest Hemingway blow his own brains out with a gun?

Originally posted by FMF
I think that the following template... "[1] advancing age > [2] increasing trepidation about the finality of death > [3] seeking comfort in a supernatural scenario that seems to circumnavigate the finality of death" ...is a commonly
encountered aspect of the human condition.

Not for Christians it isn't.

Originally posted by googlefudge
Well to outsiders who have not been indoctrinated into your religions
craziness it reads like total gibberish.

So you should allow for having to explain in detail to an outsider what
seems obvious to insiders.

Why?

What obligation does anyone have to a person that just blows off their belief like a bad dream?

Originally posted by sonship

“Every man's life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and how he died that distinguish one man from another.” -Ernest Hemingway

Didn't Ernest Hemingway blow his own brains out with a gun?

There is speculation that the man suffered from bipolar disorder. If this is true, the only question that remains is why he waited so long to do it. An alarmingly high number of people with this condition commit suicide, especially back then, and especially when undiagnosed.

Originally posted by Suzianne
Why?

What obligation does anyone have to a person that just blows off their belief like a bad dream?

The same obligation anyone has to anyone else when they want their message
to be understood.

You are obliged to make your message comprehensible to those you intend
to understand it.

If you use language only intelligible to the in crowd then you should be utterly
unsurprised when those of the out-crowd misunderstand/misinterpret it.

Originally posted by googlefudge
The same obligation anyone has to anyone else when they want their message
to be understood.

You are obliged to make your message comprehensible to those you intend
to understand it.

If you use language only intelligible to the in crowd then you should be utterly
unsurprised when those of the out-crowd misunderstand/misinterpret it.

Exactly.

And guess what? I'm not surprised.

Originally posted by Suzianne
Exactly.

And guess what? I'm not surprised.

Huh???

Originally posted by Suzianne
Not for Christians it isn't.

Turning to to religion in later life? Yes, Christians too. I know several who sought comfort in Christianity in later life.

Originally posted by Suzianne
There is speculation that the man suffered from bipolar disorder.

As far as I can tell, I think sonship was just trying to score some kind of point.

Originally posted by FMF
Turning to to religion in later life? Yes, Christians too. I know several who sought comfort in Christianity in later life.

No. Most Christians, contrary to the seeming belief of most atheists, do not, at least in my experience, suffer from your #2, "increasing trepidation about the finality of death".