14 Jun 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThey never said just because Jesus works and His Father works too that the working was what made Him equal to God. It was the fact that He did the good creative works of His Father that made Him equal to God.
If the HEAD of Jesus is GOD, then that must mean Jesus is GOD - R.J.DonkeysbeHinds
That is what you said donkey and no amount of weaseling out of it can help you. I can never take anything you say seriously, you're just too spangled for it. Joseph and Sonship claimed something equally stupid, Jesus works and his father works therefore that makes ...[text shortened]... if the head of Jesus is God that makes him God. No one should have to listen to such stupidity.
You are not equal to God because you can't do the same works that Jesus did even on the sabbath. Now can you?
Originally posted by RJHindsReally? and what did Jesus create when he said those words, ' My father keeps working and I keep working'.
They never said just because Jesus works and His Father works too that the working was what made Him equal to God. It was the fact that He did the good creative works of His Father that made Him equal to God.
You are not equal to God because you can't do the same works that Jesus did even on the sabbath. Now can you?
14 Jun 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSpeaking of a lack of reason, have you managed to find where Jesus claims to be the archangel Michael yet?
If the HEAD of Jesus is GOD, then that must mean Jesus is GOD - R.J.DonkeysbeHinds
That is what you said donkey and no amount of weaseling out of it can help you. I can never take anything you say seriously, you're just too spangled for it. Joseph and Sonship claimed something equally unreasonable, Jesus works and his father works therefore that ...[text shortened]... e head of Jesus is God that makes him God. No one should have to listen to such lack of reason.
Originally posted by RJHindsanother epic fail, these miracles did not create anything new they merely changed the constitution of something that had already been created. Jesus received his power from God that is why he stated that he can do nothing of his own initiative making your claim that he was equal to God even more ludicrous.
Jesus had already done the creative works in the miracles He perfomed like turning water into wine and restoring the sight to the blind, etc.
15 Jun 15
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieHaven't you read that Jesus created life from death by raising the dead back to life. He also created everything that has been created. 😏
another epic fail, these miracles did not create anything new they merely changed the constitution of something that had already been created. Jesus received his power from God that is why he stated that he can do nothing of his own initiative making your claim that he was equal to God even more ludicrous.
Originally posted by RJHindsthat is not what resurrection means, it means 'anastasis', literally to stand up again. Jesus did not create the life he was given the power by God to animate a life that had already been created. Your arguments are feeble, your reasoning weak and your donkeyism knows no bounds. The father is greater than I, I think he said.
Haven't you read that Jesus created life from death by raising the dead back to life. He also created everything that has been created. 😏
15 Jun 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe office of sonship is subordinate to the office of the Father. You've had this explained to you many times.
that is not what resurrection means, it means 'anastasis', literally to stand up again. Jesus did not create the life he was given the power by God to animate a life that had already been created. Your arguments are feeble, your reasoning weak and your donkeyism knows no bounds. The father is greater than I, I think he said.
Can you explain how the water got turned into wine without the creation of any new material?
16 Jun 15
Originally posted by robbie carrobieJesus, the Son of God, is said to be the creator through whom God made the world (Hebrew 1:2).
another epic fail, these miracles did not create anything new they merely changed the constitution of something that had already been created. Jesus received his power from God that is why he stated that he can do nothing of his own initiative making your claim that he was equal to God even more ludicrous.
All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being....
He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.
(John 1:3, 10)
For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created through Him and for Him.
(Colossians 1:16)
16 Jun 15
Originally posted by RJHindsthe father is greater than I - Jesus Christ
Jesus, the Son of God, is said to be the creator through whom God made the world (Hebrew 1:2).All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being....
He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.
(John 1:3, 10)For by Him all things w ...[text shortened]... r authorities--all things have been created through Him and for Him.
(Colossians 1:16)
16 Jun 15
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieJesus often calls Himself the son of man. Couldn't Jesus be speaking as the son of man when He said the Father is greater than I, rather than the Son of God? He didn't say MY Father is greater than I, did He?
the father is greater than I - Jesus Christ
16 Jun 15
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Originally posted by RJHindsSorry I have no idea what you're talking about, I do know what Jesus is talking about though - the father is greater than I - Jesus christ.
Jesus often calls Himself the son of man. Couldn't Jesus be speaking as the son of man when He said the Father is greater than I, rather than the Son of God? He didn't say MY Father is greater than I, did He?