Originally posted by vivifyyes because lets face it the Bible is designed to pander to the desires rather than help people transcend them 🙄
I'm married, so I won't need to be meeting any new women. And I like how you try to downgrade a base, instinctual feeling, as merely an "impulse". You know, like getting icecream when you should be on a diet.
As to my being aroused being "irrelevant", what about when Paul says that a man should get married, rather than "burn with passion?" If that man ...[text shortened]... he need to quench physical desire, an important thing that Christianity hinders gays from doing.
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Originally posted by SuzianneSome day when you're more mature and able to read people posts as they actually are you'll get my point.
When I live in a country torn by religious war, I might put the cart before the horse and blame religion instead of blaming a bunch of evil men, but then that's what they want, isn't it? Way to 'cave in'. Are you human, or just another 'sheep'?
"Where have I tried to weaken anyone's faith?" Asking a person to consider that their faith may be wrong isn ...[text shortened]... abandon their faith rather than merely weakening it, but you have to take what you can get, no?
You're a fool to yourself if you don't even entertain the idea that your particular faith might not be 'the divine truth'.
06 Jan 14
Originally posted by Trev33wow such patience Trev, you deserve to be canonised.
Some day when you're more mature and able to read people posts as they actually are you'll get my point.
You're a fool to yourself if you don't even entertain the idea that your particular faith might not be 'the divine truth'.
06 Jan 14
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhy don't you just offer to bring the whole lot of them into your church?
wow such patience Trev, you deserve to be canonised.
They'd fit right in.
I mean it's great and all to be a cheerleader for atheists, but on the other hand, you refuse to recognize as a Christian anyone of a denomination other than your own.
Go figure.
Originally posted by vivifyMarraige is to be considered honourable among all, the apostle was advocating it for those who do not have self control if you actually read the passage in context and in fact he recommended singleness as being the best.. There is no provision made for homosexuals in fact the Bible states quite clearly that the practice is unatural, sinful and those who do practice it will have no place in God's kingdom. Hard for you to reconcile that to your ludicrous proposals isn't it.
So the Bible is merely pandering to desires when it says it's better to marry than to "burn with passion"?
06 Jan 14
Originally posted by SuzianneWow next ill be making friends with tax collector's and harlots.
Why don't you just offer to bring the whole lot of them into your church?
They'd fit right in.
I mean it's great and all to be a cheerleader for atheists, but on the other hand, you refuse to recognize as a Christian anyone of a denomination other than your own.
Go figure.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo if singleness is the "best" (better than being married), then (by your logic) the bible is indeed pandering to people's desires, rather than helping people "transcend" those (sexual) desires. Booyah. So your post at the top of this page is rubbish.
Marraige is to be considered honourable among all, the apostle was advocating it for those who do not have self control if you actually read the passage in context and in fact he recommended singleness as being the best.. There is no provision made for homosexuals in fact the Bible states quite clearly that the practice is unatural, sinful and thos ...[text shortened]... no place in God's kingdom. Hard for you to reconcile that to your ludicrous proposals isn't it.
That said, my original point stands: since the Bible recognizes that it's better to marry than to "burn with passion", it forces a gay person to do that, by barring gay marriage. This makes the Bible useless and in fact, terrible for gays.
Originally posted by vivifySorry I have actually no idea what you are havering about, singleness may take more self control than marraige and the apostle advocates it for those that want to do more in the work of the lord. Why this should be pandering to anything I cannot say but then again not very much of what you say makes much sense for you seem to be blighted by some kind of egotism. It doesn't force anyone to do anything for as the apostle tells us we are not tempted beyond anything we can bear or that is not common to mankind making somewhat of a mockery of your now ludicrous assertion concerning gays . May I suggest you read the Bible prior to making assumptions about it who knows you may do better.
So if singleness is the "best", then the bible is indeed pandering to people's desires, rather than helping people "transcend" those desires. Booyah. So your post at the top of this page is rubbish.
That said, my original point stands: since the Bible recognizes that it's better to marry than to "burn with passion", it forces a gay person to do that, by barring gay marriage. This makes the Bible useless and in fact, terrible for gays.
07 Jan 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI'll make this simple.
Sorry I have actually no idea what you are havering about, singleness may take more self control than marraige and the apostle advocates it for those that want to do more in the work of the lord. Why this should be pandering to anything I cannot say but then again not very much of what you say makes much sense for you seem to be blighted by some k ...[text shortened]... y I suggest you read the Bible prior to making assumptions about it who knows you may do better.
You think the bible's right to let people marry, if they can't control their sexual desires. However, if gays can't control their sexual desires, you think it's right for the bible to deny gays marriage.
Your thinking couldn't be any more unjust.
Originally posted by vivifyWhat is it about the phrase 'we are not tempted beyond anything we can bear' that yet evades you. People are being heped to overcome and deal with temptation not to pander to it in your namby pamby self indulgent weak and wimpy world. If someone wants to live their life in harmony with biblical standards they can do it with Gods help and good health to them I say.
I'll make this simple.
You think the bible's right to let people marry, if they can't control their sexual desires. However, if gays can't control their sexual desires, you think it's right for the bible to deny gays marriage.
Your thinking couldn't be any more unjust.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobie"the phrase 'we are not tempted beyond anything we can bear'"
What is it about the phrase 'we are not tempted beyond anything we can bear' that yet evades you. People are being heped to overcome and deal with temptation not to pander to it in your namby pamby self indulgent weak and wimpy world. If someone wants to live their life in harmony with biblical standards they can do it with Gods help and good health to them I say.
The comedian Tig Notaro started her monologue one time by telling her audience he had just been diagnosed with breast cancer. Eventually they got the idea she was serious, which she was. As part of the following monologue, she said,
"I always think about the idea that God never gives you more than you can handle, and just the idea that God would be looking at me and thinking, Eh, I think she can handle more. And the angels thinking: What are you doing? You’re a lunatic. And God being like: “No, no, trust me. She can handle this.” "
From another link, http://thinkchristian.reframemedia.com/tig-notaro-comedy-cancer-and-community, I find this:
“I think God is insane,” she concludes. “Or not there at all.”
That should advise Christians to not reduce our theodicy to cliches. But that’s not the last word she says on the matter. The very last thing she says on the recording, over an emotional roar of applause is, “I guess God was right. I can handle this. I can totally take so much more.”