16 Oct 16
Originally posted by FMFIn the way that you understand it? which may have no basis in any reality beyond your own, oh dear. I don't disagree because there is nothing to disagree with you clearly don't have the foggiest idea what you are talking about and can explain absolutely nothing about the process.
I used the word "divinations" in one of the ways that I understand it. If you disagree, that's fine. But it is a red herring on your part. What about the other words I used?
16 Oct 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOK, take the word out of the question then if you want. Here it is again, without it:
In the way that you understand it? which may have no basis in any reality beyond your own, oh dear. I don't disagree because there is nothing to disagree with you clearly don't have the foggiest idea what you are talking about and can explain absolutely nothing about the process.
On the numerous occasions over the last 100 or more years when the JW organisation has made major predictions, forecasts, prognostications, or prognoses based on what it claimed to have learned from studying the Bible - after which it then exercised its "responsibility" to tell others - how many times was the organisation right and how many times was the organisation wrong about "what is to come"?
16 Oct 16
Originally posted by FMFhere you are, assigning words to processes that you don't understand and trying to ascertain values on the basis of words that have no relevance to any values other than those which you have assumed?? clearly you must see that such a self assuming stance is so far removed from reality that it begs belief.
I don't know how they did, or even if they did. If they took the bible to be a supernaturally inspired book, then looking at it to find supernaturally inspired predictions about the future would be "divinations" according to my understanding of the word. So, that aside - discount my use of that particular word if you want to - what about the rest of the question?
Originally posted by FMFIf you cannot tell us a single thing about the process, how accurate are any of your words you use to describe that process that you have admit you have no understanding of?
OK, take the word out of the question then if you want. Here it is again, without it:
On the numerous occasions over the last 100 or more years when the JW organisation has made major predictions, forecasts, prognostications, or prognoses based on what it claimed to have learned from studying the Bible - after which it then exercised its "responsibility" to t ...[text shortened]... as the organisation right and how many times was the organisation wrong about "what is to come"?
16 Oct 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieDo you think you're coming across as engaging the question about the success - or otherwise - of the JW organisation's Bible-based predictions - or do you you're coming across as dodging it?
here you are, assigning words to processes that you don't understand and trying to ascertain values on the basis of words that have no relevance to any values other than those which you have assumed?? clearly you must see that such a self assuming stance is so far removed from reality that it begs belief.
16 Oct 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou tell us about "the process". And then tell us how successful it has been - in the past - at predicting future events.
If you cannot tell us a single thing about the process, how accurate are any of your words you use to describe a process that you have no understanding of?
Originally posted by FMFI have no idea what you are talking about and neither it seems do you. supposed divinations? when you understand the process and when you can accurately describe what it is you are talking about then i will be in a better position to answer any questions, but i am certainly not going to battle ignorance and assumed values that have no basis in nay reality other than of your own making.
Do you think you're coming across as engaging the question about the success - or otherwise - of the JW organisation's Bible-based predictions - or do you you're coming across as dodging it?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat has been the "reality" regarding your organisation in getting its predictions right and how many times has the organisation got it wrong with regard to "what is to come"?
clearly you must see that such a self assuming stance is so far removed from reality that it begs belief.
Originally posted by FMFpredictions? i have no idea what you are talking about predictions? Do you think that the process of understand prophecy concerns itself solely with what you vaguely term predictions, or divinations?
What has been the "reality" regarding your organisation in getting its predictions right and how many times has the organisation got it wrong with regard to "what is to come"?
Originally posted by FMFNo I have no idea what you are talking about and neither it seems do you. Predictions???? what are you talking about, predictions????? Is that the same as supposed divinations?
You have no idea what predictions the JW organisation has made - based on its understanding of the Bible - over the last 100 or so years? Really?