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@dj2becker removed their quoted postWhy is this OP about “hate speech” in the spirituality forum?
@divegeester saidi got to read the op,
Why is this OP about “hate speech” in the spirituality forum?
@rookie54 saidWere those adjectives tedious and dull?
i got to read the op,
it was about an australian rugby player getting canned for his comments...
even had a link to the story...
how interesting, and odd, and weird, and two more adjectives...
@ghost-of-a-duke saidthank you dr thesaurus!!!
Were those adjectives tedious and dull?
@rookie54 saidIt’s in the debates forum now.
i got to read the op,
it was about an australian rugby player getting canned for his comments...
even had a link to the story...
how interesting, and odd, and weird, and two more adjectives...
@rookie54 saidIsrael Folau is entitled to believe what he wants and I don't think the government should be able to punish him for believing or saying in public that "Hell" awaits homosexuals [as long as it is not done in a way that incites violence].
i got to read the op,
it was about an australian rugby player getting canned for his comments...
@divegeester saidI think discussion of faith and freedom of speech belongs here on this forum.
Why is this OP about “hate speech” in the spirituality forum?
@fmf saidDo you believe it’s ok for Rugby Australia to stipulate what it’s employees are and aren’t allowed to believe and which opinions they are or aren’t allowed to voice?
Israel Folau is entitled to believe what he wants and I don't think the government should be able to punish him for believing or saying in public that "Hell" awaits homosexuals [as long as it is not done in a way that incites violence].
But the notion of 'freedom of speech' pertains to the relationship between governments and citizens and does not trump one's contractual oblig ...[text shortened]... ed to his public behaviour as long as he wanted to play rugby under the auspices of Rugby Australia.
@vivify saidI think the topic was perhaps moved to the Debates Forum so that it would maybe generate "hate speech".
A thread titled "Hate Speech" has no OP. I feel like this is some kind of performance art.
@fmf saidThanks for your opinions.
I think the topic was perhaps moved to the Debates Forum so that it would maybe generate "hate speech".
@divegeester saidI don't see how Israel Folau's words can be characterized as "hate speech"; misanthropic, yes perhaps, but not "hate speech". I think for the speech to be truly "hateful", it would have to incite some consequence that was substantially detrimental or damaging to the target. I don't think we have a right NOT to be outraged or NOT to be offended by someone else's beliefs or stated opinions.
Why is this OP about “hate speech” in the spirituality forum?
@fmf saidSecondSon, I wrote the above sentence - on a recent thread - when defending Australian rugby player Israel Folau's expressed religious beliefs about "Hell" and the accusations of "hate speech" he has had to endure.
I think in many instances, branding ideas and opinions as "hate speech" is an attempt to silence dissent by poisoning the well. I think branding the expression of certain ideas as "hate speech" in many cases is an assault on "free speech".