False Prophets

@medullah said
@Eladar

Opening videos??

I don't get you. You have some very valid points but you seem to try and engage through trickery. Why is this?

No need to engage by trickery.

You shouldn't need to ......

What were you saying about videos, or is that more trickery ?

@medullah said
You shouldn't need to ......

What were you saying about videos, or is that more trickery ?

Trying to say that you used to post under a different name. That name was banned due to cheating at chess I was told.

If that is you. But if you admit to it, then you would get account banned. You would need to keep your trickery.

@Eladar

No I have only played under this name, and have many people that can vouch for me. I have played for The Bad Bishops for more than 10 years. I don't cheat at anything.

Another pearl of wisdom from Witness Lee:

"The sun signifies Christ...the moon can be considered a figure of the church, the wife of Christ...the stars first signify Christ…although Christ is the real sun, He does not appear as the sun during the present age of night. Rather, He shines as the bright Morning Star."

(The Recovery Version: Footnotes of Genesis)

LOL

It sounds like gobbledygook to me.

@medullah said
LOL

It sounds like gobbledygook to me.

I am literally spoilt for choice.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Another pearl of wisdom from Witness Lee:

"The sun signifies Christ...the moon can be considered a figure of the church, the wife of Christ...the stars first signify Christ…although Christ is the real sun, He does not appear as the sun during the present age of night. Rather, He shines as the bright Morning Star."

(The Recovery Version: Footnotes of Genesis)

If Christ and Lucifer are both the Morning Star, that would make the doctrine of the Trinity even more complicated (and mysterious).

Here we have an excerpt from Witness Lee's commentary on the story of Jesus feeding the crowd of 5,000 with the fish and 5 loaves (Matthew 14:14-21)

"...these five loaves were barley loaves. Barley is a type of the resurrected Christ (Leviticus 23:10). Thus, the barley loaves signify Christ in resurrection as food to us. Loaves are of the vegetable life, signifying the generating aspect of Christ's life, whereas fish are of the animal life, signifying the redeeming aspect of Christ's life."

(The Recovery Version: Footnotes of Matthew).

Rather amusingly, Witness Lee described his own unique wisdom and insights as:

"High peak truths."

(http://www.ministrybooks.org/high-peak.cfm)

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

He is/was quite modest chap then......... reminds me of the Reverend Moon ....

@medullah said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

He is/was quite modest chap then......... reminds me of the Reverend Moon ....

Yes, there are similarities.

Witness Lee believed (and said) "God’s move in man is to deify man."

@medullah

He is/was quite modest chap then......... reminds me of the Reverend Moon ..

I don't think you are too sober minded then.
Sun Myung Moon followers seemed to me to pick the idea that he was the
messiah. Lee never pointed to himself as the messiah or a messiah.

Brother Lee remained always just a brother.
The Lord said we disciples should just all be brothers.
He did not adopt the clerical clergy / laity title of "Reverend".

The Unification Church was an ecumenical movement with Reverend Moon as its leader. Now I would not say that Witness Lee was not a leader in a real sense. However, Witness Lee said that a local church may be a genuine local church EVEN if that church did not receive his ministry.

That means what he taught about the local church did not depend on a congregation reading his books, listening to his messages, or following his ministry.
However, it did require them to follow the New Testament.

So I think you are sloppily making a loose "guilt by association".

If you have objections to what I have written here I'd rather be looking for definite
scriptures which you think render something I wrote in error.

I was assuming you are above mere gossip.
Saying someone reminds you of Rev. Moon is more just gossipy stuff.
I could say you "remind" me of Sweet Daddy Grace just as glibly.

Or better - you "remind" me of Charles Taze Russell founder of the Watchtower Society. But I'd rather deal with substance from the Scriptures with you.

@sonship said
@medullah

He is/was quite modest chap then......... reminds me of the Reverend Moon ..

I don't think you are too sober minded then.
Sun Myung Moon followers seemed to me to pick the idea that he was the
messiah. Lee never pointed to himself as the messiah or a messiah.

Witness Lee said his own words contained "High peak truths" and certainly put himself on a high pedestal. All of Christianity was wrong and he alone was right.

@sonship said
@medullah

He is/was quite modest chap then......... reminds me of the Reverend Moon ..

I don't think you are too sober minded then.
Sun Myung Moon followers seemed to me to pick the idea that he was the
messiah. Lee never pointed to himself as the messiah or a messiah.

Brother Lee remained always just a brother.
The Lord sa ...[text shortened]... founder of the Watchtower Society. But I'd rather deal with substance from the Scriptures with you.

Lee claimed to be an apostle who was leading and fulfilling “The Lord’s Recovery” of the church prophesied in books of the Old Testament like Nehemiah. He established the “Local Churches” by teaching that there should only be one church per city and to call a church anything other than “The Church in [Anaheim]” is fornication with the whore of Babylon.

And here, ladies and gentlemen, we reach the Grand Finale of Witness Lee’s false gospel: the Processed, Four-in-One God.

Ultimately, the church is a group of people who are in union with the Triune God and are mingled with the Triune God. The Triune God and the church are four-in-one. Because the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are all one with the Body of Christ, we may say that the Triune God is now the “four-in-one God.” These four are the Father, the Son, the Spirit, and the Body.

Witness Lee, A Deeper Study of the Divine Dispensing p.203-204