Faith is supernatural

@kellyjay said
Not true; I'm telling you we can experience God in our lives, not as a mental
acknowledgment of something supernatural but as an abiding life of God in us. If all
you ever do is speculate, that is all you ever do.

I am fully aware of what you have faith in [the "abiding life of God in us" etc. etc.]. I am also fully aware of the life-changing inspiration and strength and purpose that people can draw from their faith.

@kellyjay said
What are you talking about now?

Oh dear, here comes the dodging.

1) You claimed that “everyone has faith”

2) I’ve called you out on this as being unsupported in scripture.

3) I’ve not yet descended to your level of accusing you of twisting scripture, of being a tare, or of being a liar.

Let’s see how you respond.

Totally lost heart to participate in my own thread.

Same old critics again.

@sonship said
Totally lost heart to participate in my own thread.

Start a blog, sonship.

Post your monologues there.

And then use this message board for debates and discussions.

@fmf said
I am fully aware of what you have faith in [the "abiding life of God in us" etc. etc.]. I am also fully aware of the life-changing inspiration and strength and purpose that people can draw from their faith.

But you deny that it is real, not something real happening in us from the outside of us coming in, do you not?

@fmf said
I'm not sure what you are getting at. Neither of us know what the origin of the universe is. The fact that you promote your belief in a "supernatural beginning" does not alter this, nor does it place any onus on me to pretend that we DO know or to offer a hypothesis that competes with yours.

You can ignore the questions while at the same time deny the possibility. It is not until you grapple with it does it rate an answer, or worse the reality becomes a reality that is unavoidable.

@divegeester said
Oh dear, here comes the dodging.

1) You claimed that “everyone has faith”

2) I’ve called you out on this as being unsupported in scripture.

3) I’ve not yet descended to your level of accusing you of twisting scripture, of being a tare, or of being a liar.

Let’s see how you respond.

Yes, and the context is?

@kellyjay said
But you deny that it is real, not something real happening in us from the outside of us coming in, do you not?

It felt real to me back then, and impacted me in real ways, just as it feels real to you now and impacts you in real ways.

@kellyjay said
You can ignore the questions while at the same time deny the possibility.

But I don't "deny the possibility".

Gosh, KellyJay, haven't you read any of my posts over the last decade?

@kellyjay said
It is not until you grapple with it does it rate an answer, or worse the reality becomes a reality that is unavoidable.

No matter how much you or I grapple with it, neither of us knows what the origin of the universe was. You can speculate all you want about "an answer". Same goes for what you call the "reality that is unavoidable".

@sonship said
Totally lost heart to participate in my own thread.

Same old critics again.

Maybe start a blog elsewhere, where you can post without disagreement or challenge.

Just a thought.

@kellyjay said
Yes, and the context is?

You made a mistake, claiming that “everyone has faith”.

There is no scripture to support this.

Hey, perhaps you’re a “tare”!

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@divegeester

Maybe start a blog elsewhere, where you can post without disagreement or challenge.

Just a thought.

Maybe, I'd like to disagree with someone new for a change? You think?

Same old knee jerk reactionary critics. LIke YOU and FMF long since gotten OLD.

Don't lie on me like I don't deal with counter arguments.

@sonship said
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@divegeester
Maybe, I'd like to disagree with someone new for a change? You think?

Maybe try a different chess website with another 10 people posting and reading.

Go on, expand your audience!

@sonship said
Totally lost heart to participate in my own thread.

Same old critics again.

I think what actually happened was FMF spotted your pitch, did a bit of research and cracked it out of the park.