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    Do you believe in any weird things?

    "Weird things" are defined here as being the subject of beliefs that are not widely shared or little known or hard to explain [or even things you refuse to dismiss even though you don't quite believe them either] but...

    NOT including mainstream beliefs in supernatural causality etc. that form the basis of "revealed" religions [even if non-religious people might think they are weird].

    Example: the resurrection of Christ, young-Earth creationism and transubstantiation [or people believing that the universe has always existed], for the purposes of this thread, are NOT deemed weird.
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    I don't believe in anything,strictly speaking.
    But I realize that that's how people speak.
    I slip into it as well. Saying I believe this or that.
    But closely examined, (self) knowledge needs no consenting from anyone else. And your belief is not required
    As regards to weird things I see the language shifting in accordance with understanding of all phenomena.
    What was once weird is now becoming more everyday, whereas that which is standard is starting to seem more weird by the day
    I would replace the new seemingly weird with the word "dysfunctional".
    If you follow...
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    @fmf said
    Do you believe in any weird things?
    Having given your question considerable thought, on and off, for appropriately 37 minutes, I would say that I don’t believe in any “weird things”.
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    @divegeester said
    Having given your question considerable thought, on and off, for appropriately 37 minutes, I would say that I don’t believe in any “weird things”.
    Could you give one example of a weird thing you don't believe in please?
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    @divegeester said
    Having given your question considerable thought, on and off, for appropriately 37 minutes, I would say that I don’t believe in any “weird things”.
    37 minutes? It's weird that you waited so long.

    Do you believe that you waited so long?
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    @karoly-aczel said
    Could you give one example of a weird thing you don't believe in please?
    Sure.

    One weird thing which I don’t believe in is the notion that a benevolent, omnipotent and omnipresent God would create a scenario where the vast bulk of his beloved creation would be eternally tortured by him personally, in a place created by him personally due to a situation created by him personally and which was only alluded to in contradictory texts in a book written by dozens of human authors over a period of thousands of years, the last contribution of which was to two millennia ago and which has become compromised by hundreds of translations which have added to its controversy and detracted from its integrity.
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    @divegeester said
    Sure.

    One weird thing which I don’t believe in is the notion that a benevolent, omnipotent and omnipresent God would create a scenario where the vast bulk of his beloved creation would be eternally tortured by him personally, in a place created by him personally due to a situation created by him personally and which was only alluded to in contradictory texts in a book ...[text shortened]... ed by hundreds of translations which have added to its controversy and detracted from its integrity.
    Thanks. I see where you're coming from here
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    @divegeester said
    One weird thing which I don’t believe in is the notion that a benevolent, omnipotent and omnipresent God would create a scenario where the vast bulk of his beloved creation would be eternally tortured by him personally, in a place created by him personally due to a situation created by him personally and which was only alluded to in contradictory texts in a book written b ...[text shortened]... ed by hundreds of translations which have added to its controversy and detracted from its integrity.
    SORRY. NO MAINSTREAM "WEIRD" THINGS PLEASE.
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    @fmf said
    Do you believe in any weird things?
    I believe that most Christians here who believe in eternal suffering will avoid Thread 191981
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    @divegeester said
    I believe that most Christians here who believe in eternal suffering will avoid Thread 191981
    Too mainstream?
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    @divegeester said
    I believe that most Christians here who believe in eternal suffering will avoid Thread 191981
    MAINSTREAM! FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS THREAD, THIS BELIEF IS TOO REASONABLE.
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    @divegeester said
    Too mainstream?
    Yep. Too many hundreds of millions of people say they believe it and don't think it's weird. DISQUALIFIED.
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    @fmf said
    things you refuse to dismiss even though you don't quite believe them either
    I have seen a few rather mystifying things in Java in orbit of my family that involved - allegedly or perhaps even seemingly - the spirits of [relatively recently deceased ancestors] that baffled me ... there was some weirdness, which I don't intend to describe... and I don't actively believe there's any substance to the incidents, but... having said that, nor am I willing to dismiss them completely.
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    @FMF

    "Do you believe in any weird things?"

    I believe in perpetual motion machines. Isn't that weird?
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    @josephw said
    @FMF

    "Do you believe in any weird things?"

    I believe in perpetual motion machines. Isn't that weird?
    I saw one on a street in central Tokyo. It had been there for years. They had to replace all parts of it because they wore out, including the discreet little electrical motor that kept it going.
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