31 Oct 18
@fmf saidHe’s refused to post it (because it doesn’t exist) and is refusing to aplogise to me for claiming I am a liar, on the grounds that I’m sticking up for you...or something like that.
Where is that copy-pasted post of mine in which you claim I "admitted" that, when I was a Christian, I only pretended to be one. Copy-paste it here.
31 Oct 18
@kellyjay saidDo you think you are helping FMF in some way?
It is not much different than a color blind person believing that they grasp all there is to color. Then one day they put on those glasses that give them the ability to really see colors, reality experienced is different than hearing about it.
@divegeester saidA.C.I.D.P.™
He’s refused to post it (because it doesn’t exist) and is refusing to aplogise to me for claiming I am a liar, on the grounds that I’m sticking up for you...or something like that.
Acute Credibility & Integrity Debilitating Pride.
31 Oct 18
@divegeester saidI'm not blowing smoke up his butt telling him all is well, when every day we each
Do you think you are helping FMF in some way?
are getting closer to the end. Do you think you are helping him? If the truth is
withheld from those who need to hear it, it is done by those that know it. If you
are familiar with scripture you know the various ends people will face with and
without Christ.
@kellyjay saidYou flater yourself, KellyJay. You don't have any "truth" to tell me. I've had a close-up look at the "truth" that floats your boat. I engage with you because you present an interesting example of how superstition and religiosity affect intellectual and interpersonal behaviour. As for the actual theology stuff, you career between blunderbuss duckspeaker at one extreme and evasive deflector at the other. You are a Christian who should spend the time you use up here proselytising doling out soup to the poor or working with people with disabilities, or some such, instead. I learn more from you about the discursive carnage caused by pride and sanctimony than I do about anything of spiritual value.
I'm not blowing smoke up his butt telling him all is well, when every day we each
are getting closer to the end. Do you think you are helping him? If the truth is
withheld from those who need to hear it, it is done by those that know it. If you
are familiar with scripture you know the various ends people will face with and
without Christ.
@fmf saidWe both discussed your old profession of faith was a faith that actually lacked God in
You flater yourself, KellyJay. You don't have any "truth" to tell me. I've had a close-up look at the "truth" that floats your boat. I engage with you because you present an interesting example of how superstition and religiosity affect intellectual and interpersonal behaviour. As for the actual theology stuff, you career between blunderbuss duckspeaker at one extreme and evasive ...[text shortened]... t the discursive carnage caused by pride and sanctimony than I do about anything of spiritual value.
your life. You can smear me belittle I don't care, and when I say I don't care, I am not
going to remind you each time we find ourselves talking about doing this. My only
goal with this conversation is to remind you, or inform you the reality of God is
not something you have experienced, it isn't to late.
@kellyjay saidYou've been lying about my personal testimony about being a Christian for 10+ pages. Ah diddums KellyJay if after all that you feel "belittled".
We both discussed your old profession of faith was a faith that actually lacked God in
your life. You can smear me belittle I don't care, and when I say I don't care, I am not
going to remind you each time we find ourselves talking about doing this. My only
goal with this conversation is to remind you, or inform you the reality of God is
not something you have experienced, it isn't to late.
@fmf saidYou admitted you didn't have God in your life which is all I have been saying so
You've been lying about my personal testimony about being a Christian for 10+ pages. Ah diddums KellyJay if after all that you feel "belittled".
that is not a lie. You can claim to be a Christian, many do, that doesn't mean that
they have God in their lives. According to scripture the hope is Christ in us, if you
never had that, you never experienced the hope.
Just believing isn't enough, the devil believes it isn't going to help him. Neither
will it help anyone else that claims the name but doesn't know the Lord. You make
this all about you, it isn't, it’s all about Jesus Christ. The question is, is He our Lord
and Savior or not? He isn't unless He is in your life as Lord and Savior.
A Christ-less Christianity is nothing, but a godless philosophy dressed in religious
garb, something that should be shunned, it’s nothing but a pretense
masquerading as truth.
@kellyjay said"The Lord" felt real to me for decades. The fact that you still claim to "know the Lord" now [while I no longer do] does not enable you to reach back into my past and alter what was the reality as I perceived it at that time. Even I cannot do that.
Just believing isn't enough, the devil believes it isn't going to help him. Neither
will it help anyone else that claims the name but doesn't know the Lord.
31 Oct 18
@fmf saidYou either had God or not, you say no now, and deny God is real. So what ever it was you used to think was true wasn’t by your own admission. You can claim it was real to you, it’s just that whatever it was you used to believe in, you now acknowledge it wasn’t.
I wasn't pretending. It was real to me. So I didn't "admit" anything of the sort. You still think it's real.
So a real relationship with Christ was not what you had, were it real there could be no denying Him now.