Did Jesus sin?

@sonship said
@caesar-salad

Might as well dash the babies of one's enemies against rocks as slaughter the gays in that case.

Do you want to have a serious discussion about your problem passages with me?

If so, how about you go find your references which furnish your bases of the two criticisms. And maybe I can share with you why such passages have not caused me to renounce faith in the Son of God.

That's all.

Please share with us why the following passage doesn't trouble you:

'Blessed is he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.' (Psalm 137).

@kellyjay said
I have never said He was made to be sin.

SecondSon did. Aren't you following the thread?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
SecondSon did. Aren't you following the thread?

I am following my portion of it, you always assume what he said I have to answer for?

@kellyjay said
I am following my portion of it, you always assume what he said I have to answer for?

Seriously?

I respond to SecondSon following HIS claim that Jesus was made sin, to which you interject and reply that 'I' don't understand scripture and then proceed to state a position that opposes SecondSon, not me.

Why are you not responding to SecondSon directly and saying that it is 'he' that doesn't understand scripture?!

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Seriously?

I respond to SecondSon following HIS claim that Jesus was made sin, to which you interject and reply that 'I' don't understand scripture and then proceed to state a position that opposes SecondSon, not me.

Why are you not responding to SecondSon directly and saying that it is 'he' that doesn't understand scripture?!

"Sorry sir but you can't have it both ways. If Jesus was 'sinless' then he can't have been 'made' sinful. He 'became' sin to atone for the sins of humanity. He 'became' the curse."

I had an issue with this, if Jesus was sinless then he can't have been made sinful.
Maybe your wording was off, but this statement suggests as I read it that it could not have happen the way it did.

@kellyjay said
"Sorry sir but you can't have it both ways. If Jesus was 'sinless' then he can't have been 'made' sinful. He 'became' sin to atone for the sins of humanity. He 'became' the curse."

I had an issue with this, if Jesus was sinless then he can't have been made sinful.
Maybe your wording was off, but this statement suggests as I read it that it could not have happen the way it did.

I said he 'CAN'T' be made sinful. (Something SecondSon had claimed).

Why aren't you understanding this?! - I linked directly to a biblical passage that said Jesus 'became' the curse.

Perhaps if you followed the whole thread and not just your part of it you wouldn't keep misunderstanding and going off at a tangent.


Edit: Have a splendid Christmas old chap.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I said he 'CAN'T' be made sinful. (Something SecondSon had claimed).

Why aren't you understanding this?! - I linked directly to a biblical passage that said Jesus 'became' the curse.

Perhaps if you followed the whole thread and not just your part of it you wouldn't keep misunderstanding and going off at a tangent.


Edit: Have a splendid Christmas old chap.

Ahh, I see, sinful, not sin. You are correct, and I stand corrected.

@kellyjay said
Ahh, I see, sinful, not sin. You are correct, and I stand corrected.

Why not have a seat and sit corrected?

😉

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I said he 'CAN'T' be made sinful. (Something SecondSon had claimed).

"Why aren't you understanding this?!"

I had never claimed that Jesus was "made sinful".

How can there be a rational debate if people can't understand what others say?

@secondson said
"Why aren't you understanding this?!"

I had never claimed that Jesus was "made sinful".

How can there be a rational debate if people can't understand what others say?

Correct, you stated: 'Jesus was "made" sin.' (Which I initially said). I responded with Galatians 3:13 clearly demonstrating that he 'became' sin:

'Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by BECOMING a curse for us.'


I used 'sinful' to contrast with the 'sinless' nature of Jesus and how it was incompatible for him to have been 'made' both. (Free of sin and 'full' of sin).

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Why not have a seat and sit corrected?

😉

I have a bad back, sitting to much can hurt and with all the correcting I need, it would be to much! 😊

@kellyjay said
I have a bad back, sitting to much can hurt and with all the correcting I need, it would be to much! 😊

Come sir, in the years I have known you, you've been correct several times.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Correct, you stated: 'Jesus was "made" sin.' (Which I initially said). I responded with Galatians 3:13 clearly demonstrating that he 'became' sin:

'Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by BECOMING a curse for us.'


I used 'sinful' to contrast with the 'sinless' nature of Jesus and how it was incompatible for him to have been 'made' both. (Free of sin and 'full' of sin).

He was made sin and took the fullest punishment for all of our sins so we could be redeemed. It was something none of us could do for ourselves, justify us completely before God. We can not add to that, to try is to say what Jesus did was not enough.

@kellyjay said
He was made sin and took the fullest punishment for all of our sins so we could be redeemed. It was something none of us could do for ourselves, justify us completely before God. We can not add to that, to try is to say what Jesus did was not enough.

So you reject Galatians 3:13?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
So you reject Galatians 3:13?

Galatians 3:
10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” 11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” 12 But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.” 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”— 14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.

Two things one personal, I normally have the chapters and verses turned off when I read scripture on line, from time to time numbered chapters and verses can break a chain of thought when you are reading it that should not occur. I have even bought a Bible without chapters and verses for home reading too. When you or anyone gives a specific verse to look up and you don't actually quote it, I have to turn them back on so I know which one you mean. Which is why I request if you are going to quote a scripture that you actually post it, but if you don't want to, that is fine, I WILL TURN IT ON FOR YOU! 🙂 🙂 🙂

Second, I don't reject Galatians 3:13 I rejoice in it. God gave us the law, we could not obey it and failed completely. He made away to redeem us that depended on Him not us, we justified by our faith in Jesus Christ not our efforts. If we had to work for it God would owe us, if we had be righteous enough one sin would be our doom.