Democrats freaking out about church speech

@kellyjay said
Obama, some love Trump, both were appointed by God to lead and all the people.

How do you know this?

@kellyjay said
When we
hate one and love another we show how flawed we are. Come the day of
judgment when its all said and done none of us will be with an excuse on the type
of people we were.

So Christians who voted for Trump because they hated Clinton will face what consequence on "the day of judgement"?

@fmf said
So Christians who voted for Trump because they hated Clinton will face what consequence on "the day of judgement"?

Hating anyone is a sin, If they hated Clinton they have issues with God, the same
is true for those that hate Trump. There is no its okay to hate sign hung on anyone's
neck in this life. You either treat everyone equally or not, we are not given license
to hate someone just because they are bad either. Love your enemies is as true as
love you neighbors.

@kellyjay said
Hating anyone is a sin, If they hated Clinton they have issues with God, the same
is true for those that hate Trump. There is no its okay to hate sign hung on anyone's
neck in this life. You either treat everyone equally or not, we are not given license
to hate someone just because they are bad either. Love your enemies is as true as
love you neighbors.

So, my question? Christians who voted for Trump because they hated Clinton will face what consequence on "the day of judgement"?

What consequence will they face on "the day of judgement"?

@kellyjay said
Hating anyone is a sin, If they hated Clinton they have issues with God, the same
is true for those that hate Trump. There is no its okay to hate sign hung on anyone's
neck in this life. You either treat everyone equally or not, we are not given license
to hate someone just because they are bad either. Love your enemies is as true as
love you neighbors.

How do you know that Obama and Trump, both were appointed by God to lead and all the people?

@fmf said
So, my question? Christians who voted for Trump because they hated Clinton will face what consequence on "the day of judgement"?

What consequence will they face on "the day of judgement"?

Hate causes the issues whatever they do, or don’t do, all that springs from evil within the heart is wickedness. The one that they hate is meaningless so are their justifications and self righteousness in doing so!

@kellyjay said
Hate causes the issues whatever they do, or don’t do, all that springs from evil within the heart is wickedness. The one that they hate is meaningless so are their justifications and self righteousness in doing so!

Yes but what consequence do you think believers in Jesus will face on "the day of judgement" if they hated certain politicians?

@kellyjay said
Hate causes the issues whatever they do, or don’t do, all that springs from evil within the heart is wickedness. The one that they hate is meaningless so are their justifications and self righteousness in doing so!

How do you know that Obama and Trump, both were appointed by God to lead and all the people?

@fmf said
Yes but what consequence do you think believers in Jesus will face on "the day of judgement" if they hated certain politicians?

You seem to be hung up on specific people only. It doesn’t matter who they hate or what they did or didn’t do, it is still motivation by hate, that alone is enough. Politics simply becomes something that reveals what we are in how we view EVERYONE and ANYONE else.

@kellyjay said
You seem to be hung up on specific people only. It doesn’t matter who they hate or what they did or didn’t do, it is still motivation by hate, that alone is enough. Politics simply becomes something that reveals what we are in how we view EVERYONE and ANYONE else.

Yes OK, so I am asking you what consequence you think believers in Jesus will face on "the day of judgement" if they hated anyone during their lives?

@fmf said
Yes OK, so I am asking you what consequence you think believers in Jesus will face on "the day of judgement" if they hated anyone during their lives?

Sin has to be dealt with and through grace by faith in Christ it is. All have sinned so we all need Jesus Christ in our lives.

@kellyjay said
Sin has to be dealt with and through grace by faith in Christ it is. All have sinned so we all need Jesus Christ in our lives.

What is the consequence on "the day of judgement" for the believer in Jesus? That is my question.

Is your answer this: 'there is no consequence for the believer'?

@fmf said
What is the consequence on "the day of judgement" for the believer in Jesus? That is my question.

Is your answer this: 'there is no consequence for the believer'?

The consequences were paid for in full by Christ which is why none of us can take any credit for our righteousness. We are completely beholden to God for it all, we are not made righteous by our works. This is not saying we are not going to do works, obeying and believing in Christ can only occur once we are made right with God through Him. He is the Way!

@kellyjay said
The consequences were paid for in full by Christ which is why none of us can take any credit for our righteousness. We are completely beholden to God for it all, we are not made righteous by our works. This is not saying we are not going to do works, obeying and believing in Christ can only occur once we are made right with God through Him. He is the Way!

So, to be clear. No consequence for the believer, right? The consequence falls upon someone else. No consequence for the Christian believer.

So when you said [at the beginning of this exchange] that... "come the day of judgment when its all said and done none of us [including you, right? a believer] will be with an excuse on the type of people we were" ...why would any believer need/not need an "excuse" [on the day of judgement] for hating people when you then reveal there is, in fact, no consequence for hating people for a believer in Jesus?

@fmf said
So, to be clear. No consequence for the believer, right? The consequence falls upon someone else. No consequence for the Christian believer.

So when you said [at the beginning of this exchange] that... "come the day of judgment when its all said and done none of us [including you, right? a believer] will be with an excuse on the type of people we were" ...why would any belie ...[text shortened]... le when you then reveal there is, in fact, no consequence for hating people for a believer in Jesus?

When a debt is paid in full, it’s paid in full. With respect to consequences no one escapes reaping what they sow, if someone murders they will pay their debt here, but if they come to God for His grace, He will cover our sins. Christ paid for all of our sins, but its up to us to accept that!

Coming to Christ for forgiveness is done to those who turn to God giving their lives to God. So we give up our lives and turn them over to God, it costs us all, now we live crucified lives for His glory. He enters into us by the Holy Spirit to lead us and guide us. Keeping in mind this is all done due to God’s Love not anything we do to justify ourselves.