Originally posted by RJHinds
The definition of evolution keeps changing over time and has
different meanings depending on who is using it and in what
context it is being used. They now have microevolution and
macroevolution to confuse the issue. So the degree of change
and how the change takes place is always the issue. If everyone
who says they believe in evolution could agree ...[text shortened]... ange can be explained in some other term, since the term "evolution"
can be so misleading.

“...They now have microevolution and
macroevolution to confuse the issue ...”

it is only “confusing” to those with insufficient intelligence to understand such clear definition.

The definition of biological evolution hasn't changed much since Darwin's time.

“...What was once called adaptation is now considered evolution to many. ...”

if it is an adaptation through mutation then that IS evolution dummy. What do you claim is the difference?

“...The same goes for mutations, if it is believed to be of some benefit to
an organism. ...”

do you deny that a mutation can be beneficial? -the fact that most aren’t is irrelevant because “most” does not equate with “all”.

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
“...They now have microevolution and
macroevolution to confuse the issue ...”

it is only “confusing” to those with insufficient intelligence to understand such clear definition.

The definition of biological evolution hasn't changed much since Darwin's time.

“...What was once called adaptation is now considered evolution to many. ... ...[text shortened]... eneficial? -the fact that most aren’t is irrelevant because “most” does not equate with “all”.

A perfect example of what I mean. I rest my case.
Let the jury decide.

Originally posted by sonhouse
What is your definition of 'naturalism'?

Are you saying they find meaning in evolution outside of religious dogma? I think the religious set demands atheism to not have meaning in life, something I find abhorrent, disingenuous and arrogant to boot. And I don't even claim to be atheist.

There is an old saying by soldiers, "You can't find atheist in foxholes".

Originally posted by RJHinds
A perfect example of what I mean. I rest my case.
Let the jury decide.

I have just contradicted your claims -so its “ A perfect example” of what?

Originally posted by RJHinds
There is an old saying by soldiers, "You can't find atheist in foxholes".

-yes, and what it says is false.

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
-yes, and what it says is false.

Atheist don't see any problem with lying since they
believe there is no God to answer to. But they are
wrong.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Atheist don't see any problem with lying since they
believe there is no God to answer to. But they are
wrong.

Atheists decide whether to lie or not based on their own conscience. Theists decide whether to lie or not based on whether they think they can get away with it eg buy their way out of it through faith etc.
In my experience atheist do not, on average, lie more than theists. I also think the amount people actually lie has more to do with how they were brought up than their religion, though it is clearly a combination of both factors.

Originally posted by KellyJay
I didn't see anything new in the full post, you want to spell out what it is I
missed?
Kelly

You are changing the argument from death anxiety to a condemnation of evolution.

Originally posted by sonhouse
You are changing the argument from death anxiety to a condemnation of evolution.

I cannot help it if I say something and other people ask questions that do
in deed change the topic. I don't think you will get into to many discussions
that, that does not happen.
Kelly

Originally posted by FMF
Thank you for this information about your personal hopes and speculations. You remind me of a poster called Dasa.

FMF says:

"Death anxiety is felt by many of the living precisely because no one has ever died and then subsequently shared the tale with the living. What's there to fear? Answer: the unknown."

Thank you for this information about your personal beliefs and speculations.
You remind me of many other posters in this forum. 😕

Originally posted by josephw
Thank you for this information about your personal beliefs and speculations.

For me to contend that we die is certainly not a speculation, nor is it a 'personal belief'. Everyone dies. Clearly. Meanwhile you speculate that you will live forever based on your own unsubstantiated personal beliefs. I think your retort falls short.