Spirituality
23 Nov 06
23 Nov 06
Originally posted by lucifershammer"Some people" will always consider something something. That's hardly an argument.
[b]Saying someone has superior abilities in a certain field isn't saying they are instrinsically "superior" to other humans.
Thanks for stating the obvious (and restating what I wrote earlier). But breeding someone for a particular ability does mean that that ability is viewed in some way and by some people in a manner that confers superiority ...[text shortened]... he's reached an age of decision, can the parent sue his child for the damages incurred?[/b]
They'd have as much "right" to sue a child bred to be the next Mozart as they would to sue a child they spent thousands of dollars on piano lessons for. That is, none.
23 Nov 06
Originally posted by ivanhoeWhy are so thick? "Deformed" humans have the same natural rights as any other humans. So they'd be treated the same as anybody else. What's so hard to understand about that?
Same old tricks. You did not answer the question.
What will happen to people who will be deformed as a result of these eugenic programs.
Answer the question, marauder.
23 Nov 06
Originally posted by lucifershammerGet a soapbox. The level of hysterical discourse being engaged in by you and Ivanhoe is amusing, if intellectually vapid.
He really doesn't care. As long as society and folk don't stand in the way of his pleasures and "freedoms", it doesn't matter whether the world goes to hell.
23 Nov 06
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Originally posted by no1marauderBy endorsing eugenics, society endorses those very same somethings. Quite simple.
"Some people" will always consider something something. That's hardly an argument.
They'd have as much "right" to sue a child bred to be the next Mozart as they would to sue a child they spent thousands of dollars on piano lessons for. That is, none.
They'd have as much "right" to sue a child bred to be the next Mozart as they would to sue a child they spent thousands of dollars on piano lessons for.
You can spend thousands of dollars on a child with no musical talent; you cannot blame him/her for not wanting to follow it. Whereas a child bred to be the next Mozart is a completely different investment.
EDIT: Or maybe instead of suing the child, the parent will sue the clinic that bred the child! Caveat vendor and all that.
23 Nov 06
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Originally posted by no1marauderYou don't find it amusing at all, liar. You are irritated by it, just as you always are if people contradict you and expose your ideas for what they really are.
Get a soapbox. The level of hysterical discourse being engaged in by you and Ivanhoe is amusing, if intellectually vapid.
23 Nov 06
Originally posted by ivanhoeNo, in his Utopia (which bears a striking resemblance to the United States of America -- at least in foundational principles), deformed people are treated with the same dignity and rights that normal people have.
.... are you simply that stupid and blind ?
Better still, there are no deformed people!
23 Nov 06
Originally posted by lucifershammerRational people judge that the ability is desirable, not that the people who possess it are superior. What irrational people think is their own problem.
By endorsing eugenics, society endorses those very same somethings. Quite simple.
[b]They'd have as much "right" to sue a child bred to be the next Mozart as they would to sue a child they spent thousands of dollars on piano lessons for.
You can spend thousands of dollars on a child with no musical talent; you cannot blame him/her for not wanting to follow it. Whereas a child bred to be the next Mozart is an investment.[/b]
Both would be "investments".
23 Nov 06
Originally posted by no1marauderMaybe I will have to reconsider my attitude towards the US if these ideas become rampant over there. France will be happy to become the leader of the "counterweight" nations in the world ...... 😉
Rational people judge that the ability is desirable, not that the people who possess it are superior. What irrational people think is their own problem.
Both would be "investments".